To have naively thought people were sticking to the rules

[Myfriendanxiety]

We’ve been for a walk at a local country park today- first time in 8 weeks of leaving our village.

I had believed people were sticking to the rules as all my friends and family are, but the place was full of people meeting up who clearly aren’t the same household!

Loads of grandparents out with children and the children’s parents, lots of mum groups with pushchairs, and lots of school age children playing with friends while mums sit and watch.

I understand everyone is fed up now and desperate to see people- but I was so surprised at how many people are clearly ignoring the rules of mixing households.

So based on a small snapshot on nice day the conclusion is that no one is following the rules. People are following the rules, we are just not talking about it.

It isn’t just about the rules it’s about every time someone gives someone more space than usual they reduce the risk of the virus being passed on.

This quite clearly is what ‘stay alert’ means. But either a large proportion of the uk are pretending to be thick or they actually are. I like to think it’s the former.

To get lives back to some sort of normality people need to assess risk and use their brains. I’m sick of being tarred with the same brush as mingers who piss behind beach huts. Alfresco weeing is only acceptable in very rural places, not on town beaches and anyone with half a brain can see that.

There’s “a risk” of being outdoors at the time as other people, yes, just as there is “a risk” of being savaged by someone’s dog or being hit by a falling tree.

I wish people would understand there is no 100% safe activity. Waiting for stuff (like kids going back to school) to be declared “100% safe” as the voxpops on the news keep demanding, is deluded.

@sonineties couldn’t agree more

My grandchildren have only been out walking with my daughter or playing in their garden. My daughter has only been shopping once every 2 weeks. My son in law is in Plymouth, a medic in the Navy and deployed into a hospital on the Covid Ward. He has not been home. My husband has just been building his train set in our back garden. I have only been going to the allotment and not passing anyone or seeing anyone. We are all of no risk to each other except maybe for my daughter going shopping for all of us. I have been in her front garden watching the grandchildren through the window when she has been shopping. HOWEVER, as a teacher, I could be called into school from June 1st. So, whilst, atm, non of us are a risk to each other or before we become so, I AM going to hug my grandchildren! After all, according to the powers that be, children are not a threat !!!

People are just selfish. It isn't going to hurt anyone to stick to the safe guidelines for a bit longer, better that than cause a spread of the virus. I honestly don't understand people.

YANBU. The thing is, people are selfish. They just don’t care.

Less cars is very nice if you live near or on main roads actually. Very noisy in the summer with door open and can't open windows at night due to noise so unbearably hot. Have to have fans on all night.

These ''everyone is 'flouting' the 'rules' apart from me'' threads are getting old.

Yes, between these and the " what are teachers actually doing?" threads, MN is at its most tedious and miserable.

Anyway, the vast majority of people are behaving sensibly. You only notice the ones that aren't.

To be honest, as soon as people were told to go back to work, and kids back to school, being told we couldn't see our families started to make no sense whatsoever.

To be honest, as soon as people were told to go back to work, and kids back to school, being told we couldn't see our families started to make no sense whatsoever.

You don’t get it do you? 🤦🏻‍♀️

Every type of social interaction increases the R. Economic interactions are being prioritised. That is the point and sense of it.

I just hope that the 'mind your own business' rule-flouters don't pass it on to those of us who have followed every rule from the start.

This is the least controversial way I can respond to 'mind your own business'

@CornishYarg

I agree, flout, flaunt, furlough. I never want to hear f words again!!

YANBU OP
Our household is the only one I know of sticking to the guidelines. Everyone else I know either isn’t bothering at all or is sticking to ‘their’ version of them (I.e. not the rules)
The coupe of times I’ve been to our local park since restrictions were lifted, hardly anyone was social distancing and there were no police around at all. This is the park where people from my town would go to - so no idea why it wasn’t being policed either.

I’ve given up caring anymore.

Every type of social interaction increases the R. Economic interactions are being prioritised. That is the point and sense of it

I’m so glad you said it. Sick of explaining this to people.

Sick of explaining this to people.

too bad. It's ridiculously hypocritical to pretend there's any need for social distancing once a 5 year old spends a school day in close proximity with a group in a class.

It might work in a close village, not when parents are commuting from all over the place.

oneandtwenty that’s exactly why the HOC needs to stay on zoom....

I've noticed a lot of people not following the rules, barbeque parties, picnics, groups of kids playing

@Teateaandmoretea
Amazing how people don't see this

YANBU. Also assumed everyone was sticking to the rules and then found out most people we know locally had been visiting each other, feel like we’re the odd bods out. And in the park on weekend saw different households meet up and embrace each other.
Obviously these activities in themselves are probably low risk, but only if most people don’t do them, for the greater good.

Op why haven't you all been out for 8 weeks?

@Mummyoflittledragon I think that is a very sensible approach. Yes the rules are illogical and unfair on the young. Also children were just not mentioned! Many st adults tks like the op says have kids with them. I think most people are ignoring the rules and seeing their parents with kids in tow if they want to.

I think the government knows this and has built rule breaking into it. They are gently pushing us to break the rules

There are always people who flout the rules through entitlement or they don't want their freedoms impinged on. . What they do could give us a longer lockdown. The Police are there to sort out the people they see to be meeting in large groups or traveling further than they should. Other than that , concentrate on what you are doing to stay safe.

Well I’m not waiting 2 years to be with my family. I’ll give it until July and then I’ll make my own mind up.

To the original question, YABU!

I say the above, cos it was extremely naive of you to think despite all the press (local n national) to the contrary, you still thought this.

Now, i.personally have long thought this wasn't going to be as bad as was being predicted, and I'm glad (in a tiny boastful) in a way, I was sort of right.

Original numbers was 500k+ deaths from covid.
Don't get me wrong, those families that have lost some one as a direct result of covid, is sad and hard to swallow. Those we knew had life threatening conditions, we expected to lose in the near future, but covid took some earlier than expected (maybe) and it took some that "shouldn't be gone".

I'm still not fully convinced we've lost as many purely to.covid as the numbers suggest. I say this with reports of people saying their relative had specific conditions and were "due" to go any way. Those relatives swear blind it wasn't covid but their health condition that got them.

They've already stated that over half of the care home deaths would've died any ways.??? I think the figures were getting now are more accurate than previous numbers. .... Pure speculation on.my.part.

Back to.your question, as I said above, to be surprised that people are obvs meeting people from outside their household without distancing, is either naivety on your part, or blinkered hope it wasn't as bad as you thought.

My fiancee is on shield as she's a cancer patient. Now as flippant as you may think I am, I haven't taken any risks when going out. I struggle but I don't touch the rails on the bus (I'm.disabled and usually use the rail to help me get.up/sit) instead I use the breaking momentum of the bus to help me stand (kinetics) although I don't wear gloves, I do wear a mask on the bus. I carry handwash with me, for use after an ATM withdrawl, etc.

I dont want to be the one (well the only one) who brought home to my fiancee. I'm not stupid, I know how careless others are.

The symptoms are a hard one.for us... With our meds and conditions, we both get very hot.n sweaty, we both have spates of coughing, our taste comes n goes, our bodies constantly ache, and both having.copd, wheeze more than some especially now with pollen season here.

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As a.personal note, look up and check all news around covid, it's not exactly what's being reported. Don't just presume that what you're being told is the whole truth and the only source of information.

We are going back and forth between my mum's house and ours now - I stayed there all of last week with ds.

It's like that most places, but only this week. There's very little circulating in the general population here now I'm told, no new hospital admissions for a few days