A.i.b.u to think UK fatigued with social distancing

[DollyPartons]

Yesterday a couple 60+ reached out to handshake.They believe the "covid thing is fake"
Yesterday, elderly parent deliberately hugged DD
Today somebody grabs my nutrician bar to read and tell me the bad ingredients. People coming closer in shops, on pavements. Im scared.

Yep, people are done.

I went shopping this evening intentionally, knowing it's quiet and uncrowded at those times generally, and people kept coming to stand next to me or reach across me to pick things up off shelves. On otherwise empty aisle. No reason for it at all except a 'fuck you' attitude to others.

The women opposite go to the shop ARM IN ARM , that's not 2m , again I thought you could meet up with one person from another household but it had to be 2 m, unless I've misunderstood

Perhaps they know that neither have been mixing with anyone else so feel safe to walk arm in arm. Maybe one informally cares for the other.

Maybe they just need some human contact.

I really can't get too upset about this.

It's unsustainable long-term.

I can't be bothered with it any more. The restrictions are way over the top for most people.

But it doesnt matter what any one of us feels about it.
It's the physical distancing that matters, whether we like it or not.

I agree, Vivienne.

Some people may be done with it. Judging by the examples on this thread it's not just people wanting to see family or go to work. It's people who just want to barge about in public places and shove others out of the way. Many others are willing to try and move with adjusting measures in a responsible way.

The trouble, or part of it, is that some of these done with it people pose major problems for getting the economy back on some kind of track. Many of their behaviours do nothing to raise productivity or stimulate the economy, they just increase transmission of the disease and risk a series of lockdowns that would be economic disaster. They also will put off many other people from re entering commercial premises, if they feel basic precautionary measures won't be followed, they won't go.

I don't mean the people who think it is fake. They are outliers.

It has to be accepted people have had enough of it and are done. The more you wind up, the more angry you are constantly going to be, which can't be a good thing.

You aren't going to be able to change people.

It has to be accepted people have had enough of it and are done. The more you wind up, the more angry you are constantly going to be, which can't be a good thing. You aren't going to be able to change people.

What has to be accepted is that if the R zero is above one, the rate of infection will rise exponentially. The more it rises, the more people will die not just from covid but from other causes, the more the economy, education and society will be disrupted by the sickness either directly or through the repeated lockdown necessitated for damage limitation. That is what you can't change. The way a novel virus behaves.

If you want a stand off between a virus and the British people as to who can be more stubborn and unhelpful, you are very foolish. You know what will win. All you will get is an even harsher lesson in biological reality.

@Inkpaperstars

If you want a stand off between a virus and the British people as to who can be more stubborn and unhelpful, you are very foolish.

I didn't at any point say that's what I wanted or advocate in any way shape or form. Whilst I can and have been critical of the government in some of the things they have done, the last thing I am is foolish!

I was simply expressing a point of view that there will always be a group of people that do the opposite of what's requested and getting constantly angry about it is detrimental to your own health, which on top of what people are coping with at the moment, such as financial worries, employment worries and trying to homeschool, really can't be beneficial.

Ah, ok @PhilCornwall1, apologies for misunderstanding. There are some people around who are, or seem to be, foolish in that way and it has made me defensive. I am glad you don't think like that and I was wrong to jump to conclusions, sorry. You are right, I agree that getting angry is not helpful.

I think it's inevitable people become fatigued, it's never been a viable strategy in the long term (and wasn't meant to be.) There are all kinds of reasons for this.

• For some people it's been much more difficult than others, and they are really starting to feel the stress. People who live alone, or single parents, people with only children, people with bad living situations.

-For some elderly people, they are starting to think about the trade off. Yes, they may be more vulnerable. Depending on their age they may also know they likely have 10 years left, five years. But maybe also one or they could drop dead within a week. Those are facts that they've likely faced up to. How long are they willing to stay separated from their kids, friends, and grandkids in order to protect their health? What if that isa tenth of the time they have left, or half, or all of it?

-Some things people have been putting off need to be dealt with.

-It's also human nature to be resilient about these things. Most of us now haven't lived through diseases that are serious being around in the population normally, unless we are older. But that's not normal for human society, up until recently we went about our daily lives with much greater risks. Measles was more contagious, had a death rate of about 2% that mainly affected children. People took it seriously when it came into town and quarantined those who had it or were exposed, but largely life and society carried on. That's not to say we are wrong to take a different approach but the fact is, we can get used to that kind of risk in life.

A question to those saying they are done with it/can’t be bothered any more/think it was all an overreaction anyway:
Have any of your loved ones died of the virus?
No? Didn’t think so.

I understand why people are fed up. I am too but luckily I'm not a selfish idiot. I want to see my parents but I can't and get cross because my sister and niece go.round (so are breaking the rules and my niece is 11 so capable of staying home for an hour).
I see full lockdown returning in a,week or two as I've seen loads of people, especially teenagers breaking the rules . People in this country just can't be trusted. No wonder our death toll is the second highest in the world.

I see full lockdown returning in a,week or two as I've seen loads of people, especially teenagers breaking the rules . People in this country just can't be trusted. No wonder our death toll is the second highest in the world.

I know what you're saying, but I don't think the government can actually afford to do this again without huge problems, we'll bigger than they will have. If they do, I have very grave worries for the future and I'm worried already.

There has got to be a point where they, in a sense have to cut their losses and open up, awful I know.

As far as the people blatantly flouting the guidance is concerned, there needs to be very tough action taken against them. Perhaps a return to "old fashioned policing" that my Dad has often talked about.

Don't get me wrong, I'm as pissed off with all of this as they probably are, but social distancing is there for a reason, whatever people think about it, so it has to be done.

Anyone gets within 2 feet of me and I'm gonna scream like a fucking banshee.

While a lot of people are sensible about it still, I do know some people who basically seem to think that because they're bored of it, its over.

Anyone gets within 2 feet of me and I'm gonna scream like a fucking banshee.

Possibly rethink that to within 6ft if you are going to scream. I'd probably just tell them politely but forcefully to move though, may get better results.

Some people feel entitled and know better than the powers to be who know about CV19

The Grim Reaper has a habit of proving them wrong and FB won’t help them.

I hope I am proved wrong but I expect a second spike and we have to have another lockdown I.e. back to Square 1 again, then listen to the wailing and gnashing of teeth with the associated hand wringing

To me, this is short term, boring and frustrating but short term but will be even longer if people don’t listen to the advice

I read up on Typhoid Mary, interesting read 😳

Time will tell though 😳

Very few are socially distancing near me

The pre-existing stigmas of mixed race children and unmarried mothers are thankfully long behind us but is there still a stigma around mothers who don’t know their baby’s fathers?

I've noticed that everything has changed over the last few days - more roving groups of young teenagers bunched together, more clambering over barriers to mess around in the locked play parks, more neighbours having visitors.

Last night I walked over to the local shop, where they have a strict queuing system in place, and it was chaos. Nobody was manning the door, everyone was piling in and standing on top of one another chatting and laughing as though the last 8 weeks has been some terrible dream.

I think it's a losing battle. We've spent billions, the population is starting to revolt and we can't afford to fully lockdown again to swerve a second wave. Let's hope the stood-down Nightingales can cope with the next peak as we start planning how the hell were going to pay it all back.

*we're.

Since VE my neighbours have had their mother over twice, then their brother, mother and sister over at the same time. Our garden fence is broken in one place - I promise I’m not the worlds most nosey neighbour! However in public, people here do seem to be keeping distance still

The rhetoric amongst colleagues has changed from 'we must do this to protect the vulnerable' to 'the bloody vulnerable just need to stay at home and let the rest of us get on with it.'

This. This has been my opinion from the start.