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A.i.b.u to think UK fatigued with social distancing

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DollyPartons · 18/05/2020 20:33

Yesterday a couple 60+ reached out to handshake.They believe the "covid thing is fake"
Yesterday, elderly parent deliberately hugged DD
Today somebody grabs my nutrician bar to read and tell me the bad ingredients. People coming closer in shops, on pavements. Im scared.

OP posts:
Toomuchtrouble4me · 18/05/2020 23:06

rawlikesushi Mon 18-May-20 22:24:03
The rhetoric amongst colleagues has changed from 'we must do this to protect the vulnerable' to 'the bloody vulnerable just need to stay at home and let the rest of us get on with it.

This is whats happening in most communities

We have a lot of elderly her on the Isle of Wight - I drove past the local beach today and it was empty bar two distanced families. Thankfully hotels are closed and the ferry is really expensive for a day trip so people might keep away. People being really considerate here.

Tigresswoods · 18/05/2020 23:07

I would have said people were observing the rules until I took DS 10 to the park to kick a ball around after work this afternoon.
Multiple groups of same sex teenagers, at least 5 to a group, sitting around in the park or playing football together. 2m was not being observed.
I think we've done bloomin well to keep these groups apart until now!

ilovesooty · 18/05/2020 23:08

@mumofmany81 the guidelines say that one individual can meet one other person. Perhaps you should inform yourself before criticising @Sirzy .

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 18/05/2020 23:09

*mumofmany81

@Sirzy you're allowed to meet up now with someone from another household so if you're going to criticise people can you at least make sure you actually know what the law is.

Pot, kettle, black Hmm

Confused it’s guidance not law and no you aren’t allowed to meet up with family in private premises even if that’s in their garden, Mr Rabb explicitly advised against.

You can however meet up with a family member in a public place exercising while adhering to social distancing.

Mr Raab was also asked if people would be able to meet family members at their homes if they stayed 2m away in the garden or on the driveway.

He replied: "We are not moving to a stage where we say that households can mix inside the home," he said.

"So just to be absolutely clear, people cannot mix within the home, and that advice is not changing."

FliesandPies · 18/05/2020 23:10

The rhetoric amongst colleagues has changed from 'we must do this to protect the vulnerable' to 'the bloody vulnerable just need to stay at home and let the rest of us get on with it.'

It would have been a much more practical and less ruinous policy to have shielded the vulnerable and not disrupted the economy, social lives and education of the rest of the country.

RiftGibbon · 18/05/2020 23:19

People around my way are in the main sticking to the guidance. I have seen a mixed group of teens walking around together, definitely not all from the same household, but these are really in the minority.
Many people have masks, shops are limiting customer numbers and people are keeping their distance when passing on the street.

Yester · 18/05/2020 23:21

I completely blame the government's wishy washy message. It was so unclear. People haave gone back to work at the carwash near me, so I imagine people think why can't I go and see my Mum? The schools are back in a couple of weeks, let the kids play ...

clairefrasier · 18/05/2020 23:22

Yes. Delivery driver dropped something off today. Stood right next to front door with no distancing, at arms length. We are vunerable which is why I got delivery in first place Confused. This kind of thing seems to be happening more and more. The problem is, people don't think they will get it, but they are putting the rest of us (who are trying to be really careful) at risk.

CoachBombay · 18/05/2020 23:23

To be honest I'm done with it. I'll observe it in my professional life, I'll observe it whilst shopping, walking in the park with DS, to be polite and courteous to others.

But my very private life, no I'm done. DS sees his nan and I've had a friend come over and he plans to come over again in the near future leaving 14 days between visits.

sociallydistained · 18/05/2020 23:27

Yeah people seem done and I know a lot of people who have started to visit their parents and grandparents properly again. I will protect my Nan at all costs but I am going to start seeing my partner after 9 weeks separated this weekend. Both don't have contact with anyone else. I still won't be mixing with any other family members or friends but meet up with 1 friend for a distanced walk.

unchienandalusia · 18/05/2020 23:28

people complain we went into lockdown too late. This is why. We only have a certain time period of tolerance for this. The government and experts said so at the time. And it's proving to be true.

LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 18/05/2020 23:29

YABU,
I'm UK, and if what you're seeing is indicative of your area, then fair enough.
Just because you're seeing it doesn't mean we all are though.
I still social distance.
I find other people do too.
If you have people grabbing your shopping to read ingredients or thinking covid is fake, that's down to general knob headishness surely, not cos they're UK?

SusieOwl4 · 18/05/2020 23:30

It is not wishy washy . They have explained it quite clearly. People are just ignoring it .

Then a member of their family will get it and they will blame it on everybody else .

Bobleywobley · 18/05/2020 23:30

"This is what people are like. No one is following the rules and as a result we will never be Covid free".
Yep, 100% agree. People are idiots.

LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 18/05/2020 23:33

I completely blame the government's wishy washy message. It was so unclear. People haave gone back to work at the carwash near me, so I imagine people think why can't I go and see my Mum?

How is a car wash anything like going to sit round your mum's house for a cup of tea, or sitting out in her garden or whatever?
With a car wash you're sat in your car with windows up.
then you vroom off again and you're done.
Payments are contactless now.

Eslteacher06 · 18/05/2020 23:39

My mil came over after being in a packed garden centre with her dog, and was "bursting for the toilet", so my DH let her in. Then chatting to me in the house. I really wanted to tell her to get the eff out.

DD loves the dog so just completely forgot to keep away. I kept asking MIL to step back and she said she was. She clearly can't measure 2m. Then she runs into the house to see something my DH and DD had made while we were distracted. All the while complaining of others not socially distancing in the garden centre.

When I told her she wasn't socially distancing, she said "well I wash my hands". I wouldn't mind I guess but she looks after her 90 year old mother and I know she pretends to socially distance there too!

It's complete morons like that, who think they know how to keep their distance, that are causing this to go on. I was absolutely livid with her, yet she made out I was the unreasonable one.

PeppersYellow · 18/05/2020 23:40

coachbombay that seems odd to me that you're taking precautions in public but with your own family you're willing to put them at risk?

Poppy146 · 18/05/2020 23:40

My burrough of London seems to have all but given up.

My local poundstretcher has a one way system where once you have finished in the shop whether you've bought something or not, you have to exit via the tills where people are queuing to pay.

There were people saying "excuse me" constantly whilst I was in the queue, to get past to leave the shop despite not actually buying anything. They could have walked back around and left safely but just too damn lazy.

Not only that but then people were coming into the shop and choosing to take the short cut to the home furnishing area, by squeezing past those queuing to pay, as opposed to following the one way system.

I hate confrontation but I was very close to snapping and saying something.

The same day I saw a group of people congregating around a bench drinking, no social distancing at all.

People stood outside of newsagents making physical contact with others they knew and saw passing.

The busses look much more busy than a few weeks ago.

ghostmous3 · 18/05/2020 23:45

'you're allowed to meet up now with someone from another household so if you're going to criticise people can you at least make sure you actually know what the law is.'

You do realise these only applies to ENGLAND

We are still in lockdown here in wales, same for scotland and ni

WorraLiberty · 18/05/2020 23:47

Today somebody grabs my nutrician bar to read and tell me the bad ingredients. People coming closer in shops, on pavements. Im scared.

Yes but how old were they?

I mean you've mentioned the ages of the handshakers and huggers so surely it's completely relevant?

CoachBombay · 18/05/2020 23:52

peppers yellow all my family.members are in the low risk group. DS is 5 no health conditions, healthy weight, me 30's.no health conditions , healthy weight, my mother female 50 no underlying health conditions , healthy weight.

So the collective risk to us is low.

The public, I can't be sure if the person in Tesco has a heart condition, or the woman in the post office has just recovered of cancer. I don't know every member of the public or my colleagues health, but I now my own families, if you see what I mean. So out of respect for the public I follow the guidelines for them wash hands, 2m rule, catch it bin it kill it.

RoseMartha · 18/05/2020 23:52

People seem to be more or less sticking to the rules here. With couple of exceptions.

I have seen this week elderly grandparents looking after pre schoolers. But maybe they didnt stop all through lockdown.

What has increased the most is mid to older teens hanging out together with no social distancing on their minds. Have seen up to eight in a group.

Toomuchtrouble4me · 18/05/2020 23:53

'It would have been a much more practical and less ruinous policy to have shielded the vulnerable and not disrupted the economy, social lives and education of the rest of the country

But what about vulnerable with kids? No education for them whilst the rest at school?
What about people who live with vulnerable people trying to get paid time off to shield in order to protect them whilst collegues still have to work?
What about people who are obese so not in at-risk category but still evidently highly vulnerable?
The lockdown should have been really really extreme - and both earlier and longer, with borders closed. And policed with fines so even if people are fed up with it - they have to stay at home.

emmcan · 18/05/2020 23:54

Pretty much back to normal here.

Even shops are only just doing the 2m thing as a bit of lip service.

A lot of people back to work the past couple of weeks, though, so that may have something to do with it. Plus one of the lowest rates of infection in the country. No one claps anymore either.

toinfinityandlockdown · 18/05/2020 23:58

It's unsustainable medium term. It can only be a very short term measure.