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To be annoyed that not all year 6 children that want to return to school can?

279 replies

spongebunnyfatpants · 18/05/2020 17:46

This is not a teacher or school bashing thread, I'm just interested in people's thoughts.

My child is in year 6, we have just been informed that out of a class of 30 only 10 children will be allowed to return to school because they don't have the staff to provide for any more.

These 10 children will be chosen on a first come first served basis, we have to email if we want our child to return.

This means that some children who want to return won't be able to.

AIBU to think that this is very unfair and that part time schooling for more groups would be more appropriate rather than one group in all the time.

OP posts:
Drivingdownthe101 · 18/05/2020 19:08

but our parents are very child focussed

Yeah, we fucking hate our kids at our school.

TinySleepThief · 18/05/2020 19:10

and it's unfair some children are being educated property (by a qualified teacher) and other parents have to struggle on,

Sorry I had to chuckle a little reading this. No child going back to school will be educated properly. They will complete the same work set to their peers who are set at home and half of them at least will be supervised in this learning by a TA not a fully qualified teacher.

GrimmsFairytales · 18/05/2020 19:10

it's unfair some children are being educated property (by a qualified teacher)

In many cases they aren't. It's just as likely a TA will be supervising the children and overseeing any work they complete.

Crimsonnightlotus · 18/05/2020 19:11

Reading a lot of younger children's parents saying they keep them home, maybe reception and yr1 children won't fill up the 20 spaces each. If so, do school take yr6 who wants to be back instead?

spanieleyes · 18/05/2020 19:11

I think our yr 6s would prefer a TA to me!

Drivingdownthe101 · 18/05/2020 19:12

it means they put the well being and safety of their children first

they are at our school too. By keeping a roof over their heads. Large number of parents on zero hours contracts for example. And you know what they really don’t need? To be made to feel like shit by people like you, who suggest that by earning a living they are not putting the ‘well being and safety’ of their children first.
I hope you’re not a teacher. If so you disgust me.

lilgreen · 18/05/2020 19:12

We’re not teaching properly either as we plan to be outside to reduce risk.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 18/05/2020 19:12

SeasOfChange such a blanket, stupid statement “putting their children first”-
Equally someone could say if you are happy to ruin your child’s mental health and education because 100children in the U.K. have developed an illness you are a neglectful parent.
No one has the answers- your judgemental attitude is not helpful. And news for you Corona isn’t going anywhere, it’s something we as a society, perhaps a generation will learn to live with!

TinySleepThief · 18/05/2020 19:12

I think our yr 6s would prefer a TA to me!

Grin I wonder how many will be just as eager to go back on day 2. Grin

GrimmsFairytales · 18/05/2020 19:13

I think our yr 6s would prefer a TA to me!

Why are you Miss Trunchbull? Grin

CallmeAngelina · 18/05/2020 19:13

10 is a stupidly small number Why? The smaller the number, the safer we all are.

and it's unfair some children are being educated property (by a qualified teacher) and other parents have to struggle on.
They won't necessarily be being "educated properly." In fact, the only benefit I can see of risking your child returning to school (and I make no judgement on that, beyond saying that it IS more risky than keeping them home) is that someone else will be doing the nagging to get them to do the tasks set instead of you.

LittleFoxKit · 18/05/2020 19:13

maybe reception and yr1 children won't fill up the 20 spaces each. If so, do school take yr6 who wants to be back instead?

If the school only have space for 10 pupils per class, even if they only get 16 in yr and 13 in y1 then they will still need the same amount of classrooms and teachers (4 in total) and it therefore wouldnt free up any space for year 6, unless you put year 6 into the same class as yr and y1 which frankly imo would be a disaster

spanieleyes · 18/05/2020 19:13

It's a cunning plan to reduce the number of children coming in!

antipodalpizza · 18/05/2020 19:14

I expect it is FCFS after the ones who staff have decided are very vulnerable have got a space.

GrimmsFairytales · 18/05/2020 19:15

It's a cunning plan to reduce the number of children coming in!

You're an evil genius. Grin

Jowak1 · 18/05/2020 19:15

Bury Council (North Manchester) where I live have said that no school children will be returning to school on June 1st as they don't think it's safe.

TinySleepThief · 18/05/2020 19:18

I expect it is FCFS after the ones who staff have decided are very vulnerable have got a space.

Od course it will be. They won't risk Johnny who is vulnerable, hasn't completed much work as he cant get on a computer easily and whose mum is a single parent on a zero hours contract not getting a place because his mum was at work and couldn't email back in time getting a place over James who has 2 parents working from home and is keeping up with the work just fine as he has his own computer.

For the OP to think its FCFS for everyone is madness. These 10 spaces are 100% an extra after all those who absolutely need to be in school have been considered.

Redwinestillfine · 18/05/2020 19:18

It's because it's not about education but childcare. The Government wants people back to work, nevermind what's best for the kids.

TeenPlusTwenties · 18/05/2020 19:20

Callme In fact, the only benefit I can see of risking your child returning to school ... is that someone else will be doing the nagging to get them to do the tasks set instead of you.

I've a y10 not a y6, but my DD's mental health has nose dived during lockdown. There are reasons other than education for children to be back at school.

lilgreen · 18/05/2020 19:20

If the government are arguing about disadvantaged children needing school, what about the disadvantaged year 2,3,4 and 5s and secondary ?

ProseccoBubbleFantasies · 18/05/2020 19:21

As has been said, the whole thing is unfair anyway, as parents of children in yrs 2 - 5 and yr 7 and above are aware.

For those in school, it won't be proper school or education.

The whole thing's a hit shitshow

Daffodil
TinySleepThief · 18/05/2020 19:22

If the government are arguing about disadvantaged children needing school, what about the disadvantaged year 2,3,4 and 5s and secondary ?

Now now stop asking such sensible questions. Grin

Drivingdownthe101 · 18/05/2020 19:22

If the government are arguing about disadvantaged children needing school, what about the disadvantaged year 2,3,4 and 5s and secondary?

They are planning to get the year 2, 3, 4 and 5s back before the summer too aren’t they?

CallmeAngelina · 18/05/2020 19:23

There are reasons other than education for children to be back at school.
You think that going back to school is going to anything LIKE what they left behind them? It will quite likely send their mental health nose-diving even further.

lilgreen · 18/05/2020 19:24

It’s an ‘ambition’ to get them all back but they won’t fit with all the risk assessment that’s been done!