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Would you be annoyed if someone did this?

277 replies

nightimebrowser · 16/05/2020 14:38

Background:
Obviously been social distancing and taking all the necessary precautions (not seeing anyone outside household, staying in except for essential trips etc) for the past 9 weeks. My mental health has seriously declined due to this (already diagnosed with depression and anxiety) and the lockdown really has not helped plus being dropped by the adult mental health team as they don't have the resources right now.😣

My 2 friends have suggested meeting up for a walk tomorrow and having a picnic- we would obviously not touch each other and stay 2 meters apart at all times and we are going to a large, isolated open space. I know the rules are only 1:1 meetings though, would you be annoyed if you saw 3 people?

I really need this right now, I've been struggling so much. Obviously it's easier to meet as a 3 than do two separate meetings 1:1.

OP posts:
Carrie7469 · 16/05/2020 20:41

I'm actually really angry about your complete lack of conscience. You are not more important than anyone else. The rules apply to me, you and everyone else.

thedancingbear · 16/05/2020 20:44

It seems to me that there are two kinds of posters on this thread:

(i) those who are basically saying - it may be a technical breach of the guidelines, but in a minor way; the real world risk is very low and as long as you're sensible it's no big deal. Your mental health is really important.

(ii) the second set who pile in calling the OP selfish, shameful, despicable etc.

The second category are very clearly getting a buzz off of sticking the boot into a woman with mental health problems. The content is petty and the tone is aggressive, cuntish, and, yes bullying.

You are bullying a woman with mental health issues. Fucking stop it.

Reallynowdear · 16/05/2020 20:45

My precious Boris?

What are you on about?

I work for the NHS, I did not vote for this person.

I have not lied, not once.

However, I have had to repeatedly, explain that these guidelines are available for you to read/watch, whether you agree with them or not, on various news channels. It is not my job to explain them to you, why do you struggle with this?

As adults, we can have differences with people in authority but still act decently and in accordance with guidelines.

It really isn't as hard as youth trying to make it out to be.

There are no lies in any of my posts, they are there for all to read.

Carrie7469 · 16/05/2020 20:48

It's not a case of bullying a person with mental health issues. Mental health issues don't give you a free pass to disregard the rules.

Cherrysherbet · 16/05/2020 20:49

You should go and have a nice time. I wouldn’t judge you.

RapunzelsBuzzcut · 16/05/2020 20:52

You lied when you stated (repeatedly) that I’d said the OP claimed she was planning on friend-swapping. I never said that. I’ve clarified twice “I did NOT say that.” Yet you persist in lying that I did.

I’ve read the rules carefully. I understand the rules perfectly, I just think they are illogical and hypocritical, far too loose, and put people in danger.

You insist the Rules are all logical and perfect when they clearly are not, but refuse to explain why you think this.

thedancingbear · 16/05/2020 20:53

Carrie7469. Would you speak to someone in the OP's position in that way IRL? Calling her shameful and despicable?

Your choice of language is deliberately aggressive and completely out of order from someone suffering with mental illness. you know exactly what you are doing. stop it.

Carrie7469 · 16/05/2020 20:57

@thedancingbear
Actually, I would, although I recognise that it may not be the most productive choice of words.

Reallynowdear · 16/05/2020 20:57

Where did I say the rules were logical and perfect, let alone insist they were?

nicky7654 · 16/05/2020 21:11

@Alymcnabs well said x

fluffi · 16/05/2020 21:15

Why not see one friend tomorrow for a socially distant walk and picnic and one other friend next weekend?

RapunzelsBuzzcut · 16/05/2020 21:16

You’ve repeatedly defended the rules, frequently contradicted and disagreed with me when I said some of the rules are contradictory or illogical or actively encourage people to take unnecessary trips outside. You stated that none of the advice is “stupid”, that none of the advice has been “dangerous,” and made mocking comments implying that I am ignorant and implying that the government clearly know better than its many, many critics worldwide and in both the national and international scientific communities.

You also, bizarrely, chose to interpret, “Please explain why you personally believe this laughably nonsensical rule makes sense” to mean, “I do not understand what the rules are. Please explain them are to me.”

Finally, you claimed I used the word “bully” to refer to people advising the OP to stay in, when anyone who can read can see that I used the word “bully” explicitly to refer only to the 2-3 posters trying to convince the OP to go out MORE than she feels comfortable doing.

nicky7654 · 16/05/2020 21:16

@thedancingbear Unfortunately MNs can be very cuntish unfortunately , they need to get off their high horse and show some kindness!!! Big fucking deal that a lady is going to social distance in a private field with 3 friends as she is feeling depressed. The lady needed some kindness and not your permission to get some respite away from her 4 walls.

Reallynowdear · 16/05/2020 21:37

Dear God,

Read my posts, there is not one lie in them, not one.

If you'd rather not answer my questions thats ok, we all know I have not said the guidelines are logical, my posts are there for everyone to read.

I said that you mis read to OP, because that is how your response came across to me. I have not lied once, no matter how many times you say I have.

If you ask for an explanation of something, whatever the subject matter is, I will point you in the direction of the source. Not because I think you are ignorant, but because that is my choice, you do not have to agree, but to continually call me a liar is uncalled for, as well as untrue.

'stupid' and 'dangerous' came form your posts, I was simply disagreeing with you there.

As for 'bully', that is a dangerous word, I cannot see any bullying, only differences of opinion which the OP then chose to describe as bullying.

At no point did I say the government know better, I said they provide information and guidelines.

I'm going to work now, if you reply we can carry this on tomorrow, but I did not lie.

RapunzelsBuzzcut · 16/05/2020 22:04

Glad you’ve finally admitted that you misinterpreted my post, and that I did not say what you kept insisting I’d said.

You’re the one who refuses to answer questions, not me. Everyone can read your posts.

Bullying is a matter of opinion and in my opinion some of the posts here clearly fall into the bullying category, with one or two being shockingly abusive.

If you ask for an explanation of something, whatever the subject matter is, I will point you in the direction of the source

I didn’t ask you to explain what the rules are. I know what the rules are. The question I asked is why do you believe that obviously nonsensical rules like “parents can travel in the same car but can only enter a garden one at a time” is sensible and good and shouldn’t be questioned or disobeyed. That is a question only you can answer.

Reallynowdear · 17/05/2020 05:16

Thank you for not calling me a liar in your last post, it's much appreciated.

GrapefruitGin · 17/05/2020 07:30

OP, as I said, I’ll be thinking of you whilst on my shift at the hospital today. I hope you sleep peacefully with the decision you’ve made.

redwoodmazza · 17/05/2020 08:16

Would it be a gas meter, water meter or electricity meter?
[Misses the point entirely!!! Wink ]

Dieu · 17/05/2020 09:02

Sounds lovely, OP Thanks

Ilovecats23 · 17/05/2020 09:22

I saw a group of 5-6 teenagers yesterday sat in a circle, socially distancing, for half the day yesterday. It didn’t once occur to me to be annoyed, they’re being cautious and I’m not going to judge them for doing something they feel necessary while they’re being careful!

nightimebrowser · 17/05/2020 19:46

Just got home. Really did me the world of good. Did not touch friends at any point and made sure to sit/stand a distance away.

We are planning to do the same next week.

OP posts:
Sandybval · 17/05/2020 20:03

OP, as I said, I’ll be thinking of you whilst on my shift at the hospital today. I hope you sleep peacefully with the decision you’ve made

Oh the drama. I am sure the mental health team who have abandoned OP will be pleased she is in a better place after her meet up, swings and roundabouts.

CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 17/05/2020 20:12

please dont take more unnecessary risks op.

thedancingbear · 17/05/2020 20:16

please dont take more unnecessary risks op.

I agree. Much better to meet your two friends at once than risk two separate trips out.

OP, I hope you had a lovely time. Remember that most people aren't uptight nobbers - this place can present a warped picture of the world sometimes.

missmouse101 · 17/05/2020 20:19

I actually think this post is a wind up. Especially the slipping in that you're doing it again next week. Oh how special you are. Do you want a little clap? Hmm

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