To think it’s about time @MNHQ stepped up and did something about the teacher bashing.

[SachaStark]

This evening has been AWFUL here on the AIBU board.

@MNHQ, at what point do you actually plan to intervene and do something about the sheer number of teacher bashing threads, and individual posts? Should we expect any kind of moderation?

Or, is this in fact, “all in the spirit of Mumsnet”? Because at the moment, you’re making it look a darn sight like you agree by proxy.

I'm not! I've seen a lot of evidence suggesting they only protect other people and not the wearer! There is really no need to be rude about it.

"With the exception of health professionals and prison staff, who else is expected to spend 7 hours a day in a poorly ventilated room with the same group of people without any form of PPE"

Well that's an odd argument. Being with the same group vastly reduces the risk compared to seeing many more different people as, say, a supermarket worker.

Well said @nellodee.
Am also a shortage area teacher. I am aware of 3 resignations, a 4th if you include my own. The shit on this site in the last few weeks is the straw that broke my back. I am aware of how few people understand the job and can manage that but the wilful ignorance clearly demonstrated here is beyond my comprehension. I am so sorry for my colleagues who have to continue beyond July.

ihavechildren being in an enclosed space with the same people increases the viral dose that others are exposed to if one of the people is infected.

Much lower viral load if you're working in a place with a a stream of people going through it (which you're distanced from and have a screen between you and them).

Well that's an odd argument. Being with the same group vastly reduces the risk compared to seeing many more different people as, say, a supermarket worker

Until one of those people has the virus. Whereas supermarket workers have access to some PPE, social distancing, far bigger spaces etc. A supermarket worker may well co,e I to contact with so,Rome with the virus but it will be fleeting whereas a teacher will be stuck in a room for 7 hours whilst they breath it out with every breath. Viral load, anyone? Who is more likely to need hospitalisation?

Sorry to hear it's got that bad, Howabout. I don't think there is one member of my department who hasn't spoken about quitting this year. It's like a domino effect. We're super stressed because we're short staffed, and then more people leave, and then it gets even worse.

MrsTerryPratchett

This is a board called MUMSnet. There are going to be some parents. A lot of whom will have had a bad experience with teachers. Because that's just the nature of work. I find it odd why a lot of teachers on here can't understand that.

And if they were complaining solely about their child's teacher and school then fair enough, but generalisations, baiting and nasty posts about the whole profession should be stopped.

I find it odd that you are ok with that

Yes but vastly reduces the risk that you will come into contact with infected people.

Surely teachers understand how to assess risk

@TrustTheGeneGenie

I think the overall effectiveness depends on the setting, nature of interaction, proximity to other people, prevalence of disease etc. So what is best for the general lockeddown public might be different to what people in high risk settings should do.

@Howaboutanewname for heavens sake don't leave your job over some misunderstanding on Mumsnet. That isnt rational. Some of these threads are not representative.

Your not wrong OP even this morning logging on every 3rd thread is just another way to have a go at teachers.

I am resigned already. There were several things that needed to shift in my life. What has happened here has just underlined it for me. I might have hung on another year, but that would have been it.

ihavechildren yes teachers do know how to assess risk.

Which is why they're concerned that the social distancing/PPE/screens that have become the norm in shops etc over the past few weeks have been thrown out of the window in the decision to open schools in a couple of weeks.

The BMA and teaching unions have assessed the risks and said that it isn't safe. And that's without factoring in the increases exposure to potentially infectious people from school staff using public transport.

I am not slagging off teachers but I am slagging off the unions

The unions are doing their job: protecting their members. "Slagging them off" for that is like slagging me off for telling people what benefits they may be entitled to and how to rectify it if they're not getting the amount of money they should be getting.

But Fripp, generalisations are everywhere on MN.

Teachers
Police
NHS staff
Furloughed workers
Step parents
Mothers
Fathers
Dog owners
Cat owners
People on benefits
Unemployed
Brexit voters

The list could go on. It's unfortunate that teachers are generalised more often but not surprising as this is a forum for parents. But I don't think you can demand it be moderated when it is literally all over the discussion boards about so so many subjects.

MrsTerryPratchett but MN isn't a board solely for people who want to slag off teaching staff. Why shouldn't teachers who are parents use MN?

There is the odd thread slagging off landlords, but there's never been the pile on towards landlords that we've seen towards teachers the last few weeks.

nellodee * - I think this is what sticks in the throat, this need to detail every single thing you are doing, I believe it's a small minority of posters who think teachers are doing nothing or very little, most people understand teachers are working hard albeit differently. I don't hear nurses, prison officers, shop workers, food production workers going into this level of detail about their jobs so it comes across as defensive and sometimes belligerent (parents don't understand how hard* we are working) and as I mentioned upthread, I think teachers are probably quite enjoying many aspects of this new way of working primarily from home.... so why not admit it? Why not say, actually for us this is working well, it's safer for us so let's carry on for a while....

We are all entitled to our opinions that's what a forum is about.

squealing isn't going to stop the fact that some schools and teachers are doing a god awful job.

My son was bullied for a year by a teacher she was an utter bitch to him, she lost her job over it lucky she had track record of picking on one child a year and that year she picked the wrong child - I'm afraid your profession is far from perfect, I don't class "all" teachers as saints.

You all do your jobs the same as the rest of us, so to the nice ones thank you for doing your job that you signed up to do.

And I've experienced it myself, all solicitors are slow, do everything by snail mail, never answer the phone, take 5 months to reply to an email, just want your money etc etc.

I think that people bash all occupations on MN's and particulary vent anger if they feel some of not doing their bit.

Offensive messages can be reported and removed.

Mumsnet should not however restrict opinions - why just teachers - other groups take some bashing from time to time!

Perhaps either move on past the post if the opinion is one you don't agree with or if really offensive then report in the usual way. No need for censorship though!

Sorry about the bold fail

Fucking hell, @ThrowItInTheBin, what teacher would actually PREFER this way of working??

It’s all the admin tasks, but framed in a much harder way, but without the very best part of the job, which is the bit in the classroom with a load of wonderful kids!

What kind of teacher doesn’t want that part and prefers remote learning?!

Do people on here think teachers act completely autonomously? Newsflash: we don’t. We have to do what we are told by management, same as in any other job. If you have an issue with YOUR child’s school, you need to complain to the headteacher. They - within the constraints of DFE regulations and limited finances - make the decisions.

Genuine question, what makes anyone think September will be any better? If it’s no better then what is the way forward. The answer can not be the status quo. Schools cannot stay closed indefinitely. So what are the proposals for ensuring the continued education of our young? So many do not have the access to online learning so many are going to be left by the wayside. Instead of bickering about whether or not to open schools we need to discuss how we move forward to be able to live with a disease that has every chance of being around without a vaccine for a considerable amount of time.