To think it’s about time @MNHQ stepped up and did something about the teacher bashing.

[SachaStark]

This evening has been AWFUL here on the AIBU board.

@MNHQ, at what point do you actually plan to intervene and do something about the sheer number of teacher bashing threads, and individual posts? Should we expect any kind of moderation?

Or, is this in fact, “all in the spirit of Mumsnet”? Because at the moment, you’re making it look a darn sight like you agree by proxy.

I had another parent ask the teacher to call me as I had the incorrect details for Glow. That’s was 7 weeks ago and I’m still waiting for her to contact me.

@mrsBtheparker Interesting point about questioning doctors - the last time I went to see the doctor with ds, after speaking to ds, the doctor spent time asking me what I thought was wrong with him - I had my theory. I was right - I know my kids...I can't always diagnose but sometimes my insight is powerful and the doctor who ignores a parent's thoughts on their child's illness (or their own) is missing a big chunk of evidence and I wouldn't trust them - thankfully most of them aren't as insecure as teachers seem to be.

Nicky

Yes, I know it was sarcastic about GCSEs, but Sacha's comment was in response to a parent who said she is doing 60% of a teacher's workload. Change 'GCSE data' to 'GLD data' or even just 'end-of-year data' and her comment still stands that this is not something parents are having to do.

I was just trying to highlight for those parents who didn't know, some of the other aspects of a teacher's workload. Again, not because we work harder than anyone else, but because a lot of people aren't sure what goes on behind the actual teaching part. And plenty of those people have asked us to tell them what it is we do when we're not teaching, so I thought it might help.

I had another parent ask the teacher to call me as I had the incorrect details for Glow. That’s was 7 weeks ago and I’m still waiting for her to contact me.

I think I read on this? another? thread that you had an answer to your question from an SLT member after replying to an email newsletter or similar, so that's good. But yes, not good the teacher hasn't managed to call you. She/he obviously forgot, which is terrible, and I'm guilty of forgetting to contact a parent before now. When they reminded me a few days later I was very apologetic. Perhaps the SLT member has spoken to them to remind them they need to respond promptly in future? One can hope.

thankfully most of them aren't as insecure as teachers seem to be

Are we? I didn’t get that email...

the doctor spent time asking me what I thought was wrong with him - I had my theory. I was right - I know my kids...I can't always diagnose but sometimes my insight is powerful and the doctor who ignores a parent's thoughts on their child's illness (or their own) is missing a big chunk of evidence and I wouldn't trust them

I have NEVER had a doctor ask me what I think is wrong with me or my son. They will question, sure, but it's more along the lines of "Are they acting like their usual self?" or "Has this happened before?" or "Has anything changed recently?"

I guess all doctors are different.

Just like teachers.

No, she gave a reply to the parent telling her to tell me to retry it later as glow was obviously “busy” 😂

I’m in Scotland so I don’t what what the equivalent of SLT is?

thankfully most of them aren't as insecure as teachers seem to be.

I seem insecure to you? Have we met?

Sorry that’s was to SallyLovesCheese

Nicky

No, she gave a reply to the parent telling her to tell me to retry it later as glow was obviously “busy” 😂

Sorry, I must be mis-remembering someone else's communication mishap! No idea what Glow is - I'm assuming an educational platform but it sounds like a brand of make-up or fake lashes or something! Did you "retry"?

I’m in Scotland so I don’t what what the equivalent of SLT is?

Sorry, I mean leadership, so headteacher, deputy, assistant head etc. Senior Leadership Team. Is there a similar initialism in Scotland?

A lot of industries that deal with the public in enclosed spaces are beginning to open up.

A lot of people are nervous about returning to work. Teachers don’t have the monopoly on this.

SallyLovesCheese Yes, it’s the website we have to use to access schoolwork. I did retry but the login details and passwords that the school had given some of us were incorrect. My friend who is doing training in schools could see what was wrong with it and was able to correct it so we eventually got in!

That sounds like a headache, Nick!

Well, if you were one of my parents, I'd have sorted it all out for you! Sadly, like any profession/workplace, you get some teachers/schools that are better and some worse.

A lot of industries that deal with the public in enclosed spaces are beginning to open up.

A lot of people are nervous about returning to work. Teachers don’t have the monopoly on this.

So we're not allowed to try and be as safe at work as possible?

I wonder what parents will be saying when theres simply not enough teachers left to adequately teach their children? I've unfortunately seen quite a few threads from teachers, LSA and TAs who have had enough of being treated like shit and have left the profession. I also woulsnt be surprised that if people on are on here and were considering doing a PGCE or PCET next year have been sufficiently put off, not by the virus but by the unending abuse on top of what is already a demanding job..

little my kids are finalists at university.
Given the current state of the economy, grads are piling into MAs, PGCE etc inntyeir droves.
Obviously they won’t be trained immediately but I bet the courses will be full.
Always the way in a terrible recession.

I have NEVER had a doctor ask me what I think is wrong with me or my son. That's weird. It's a question that I believe they encourage doctors to ask now, because patients often have a bloody good idea on what is wrong with them but I have heard it more from consultants, one said Doctors ignore a mother at their peril!

Why would a doctor ask me for my diagnosis? I am not a medical professional and don't Google symptoms as that's the easiest way to get led down the wrong path.

I tell the doctor the symptoms, give some background info or family history and they use their training to give their diagnosis.

I used 111 just yesterday for my son and was never asked what I thought the problem was, just answered all his questions.

What has upset me (as far as I allow myself to be upset by people I don’t know) is the contempt, bile and viciousness with which the teaching profession is discussed on here and in some sections of the media. It’s as if all of a sudden about 98% of the population absolutely hate us all and think we are completely worthless.

Considering I have spent nearly a quarter of a century fully committed to my job with all that entails (and there’s no point listing what it entails because someone will come along and tell me what I have done is ‘no more than anyone else does’ and it’s what I’m paid for) reading the comments and threads on MN been a totally demoralising experience.

I can’t be arsed to teach your kids now. I’m done. You can keep them at home and do it yourself

But then instead of rational (helpful) discussion, you end up getting unsupportive doom-mongering answers that verge on coersion to discourage parents to send pupils back in school.

This! All and any suggestions and government guidelines are shot down as impossible.

A poster commented about a watching an interview with a Danish teacher on the BBC and how positive and uplifting it was and the contrast with the British teacher also on the interview was disappointing.

Suggestion 1. "Not possible "
Suggestion 2. "We'll never afford that"
Suggestion 3. "We're not trainer for that"
Suggestion 4. "We're not paid for that"
Suggestion 5. "You do it then"

And on and on and on.

Why would a doctor ask me for my diagnosis? Because people often have a pretty good idea with regards to what is wrong with them and what treatment they want - and if they have mis-diagnosed themselves they need to be reassured. You don't google, are you unusual I don't know, most doctors I have seen assumed I had and it meant we had an informed conversation about treatment options. But I get there are those people who like the Doctor to do all the thinking and make all the decisions - I prefer to see healthcare as collaborative and I'd prefer to see education in the same light.

I can’t be arsed to teach your kids now. I’m done. You can keep them at home and do it yourself

This is where I am. Seeing it from people I thought were friends on FB as well. I've handed in my notice. I don't want to give any more of myself just to be held in such contempt.

But I get there are those people who like the Doctor to do all the thinking and make all the decisions

Yes, I want a doctor to make the diagnosis. Doesn't mean I'm not then part of decision-making in terms of possible treatment if I want to be, or if it's relevant.

Why would I go off and diagnose myself, perhaps worry myself, research possible treatments, only to then potentially have the doctor tell me it's something completely different?

Do you not trust a doctor or teacher to make a decision without your input? That's quite worrying. And frustrating. Yes, plenty of times to be collaborative in education, but I'd hope that parents would trust me to make decisions without questioning me if the situation called for it.

I think if you can't be arsed - then it is time for a change of career - good luck with the next project - if it's outside the public sector you may get a shock!

@Sultanarama

That’s exactly the sort of comment I’m talking about. But thanks.