Classroom Lessons via Zoom

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AIBU to expect the teachers at my daughter’s rs primary school to offer at least some lessons via Zoom? The feedback I have been given is that that they aren’t offering it due to a) safeguarding issues, and b) it would add to the teachers workload. Well, surely if we parents consent for our child to sign in for these lessons then no safeguarding issue. Plus, at present, we parents are doing at least 60% of the teachers work for them via homeschooling. (I appreciate that they are setting work for the children, but this is part of the planning they would do anyway).

I don't agree with op especially with the 60% of teacher's work comment but that isn't why I've reported. There have already been lots of teacher related threads either deleted or closed, so I don't see why this one is any different.

It seems to me from reading all these threads that there is a real mix of support being provided, from decent to non existent. Surely the teachers on here can see that some parents are feeling that they and their children are not being supported?

I have no doubt that some teachers are doing a fantastic job in the circumstances. But please, do yourselves a favour on here and show some empathy for the parents who are just worried about their child’s education. Maybe explain a bit more about what your current workload entails so people can understand, rather than just saying fuck off or calling people a bell end.

Parents, maybe accept that some teachers are doing all they can and just because your kids teachers aren’t doesn’t mean you can judge them all as rubbish and lazy.

I don't expect Children to spend 6 hours a day working. But 15 minutes doesn't cut it either.

If your school are really only setting 15 minutes work a day then you need to take it up with them. This doesn't apply to all teachers. Many are teaching remotely in other ways besides live lessons.

Yes, people are still judging my work. I had a 3 hour call this week where a report I had written whilst trying to supervise DS was ripped to shreds by 5 people. And I picked it up and tried again.

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The situation, not you.

I'm not a teacher.

@MinesAPintOfTea I think it depends on the Hub but either way they will be doing activities. It would be very difficult to expect them to just stare at each other all day. Ours are doing a mix of educational/creative so learning about DNA in science experiments to cooking lasagne.

It’s great that so many of your class have zoom and video call- I’m sure that will be the case in lots of places across the country- just not everywhere. Like I said, it won’t be the same for all, but I teach in a particularly deprived area. Lack of facilities has to be addressed for my school to be able to Zoom teach effectively- and there’s rumblings that this will happen for September so fingers crossed!

And my Ds would love a zoom lesson. He would sit dutifully, watch the teacher do all the work.....and do.fuck all.but it's ok, it's filled an.hour.I think.90s teaching is the way: here's a text book.Go!

Out of interest how precisely did you come up with 60% of my work? Are you sure it's not 56%? 63.26%?

Also safeguarding. And actually zoom is for 16+.

I was frustrated when I first read your post but now your ignorance humours me. A staffroom story for when we were back . . .don't you know parents did precisely 60% of our work colleagues 😂😂😂 maybe we can do a clap for parents at our next parents evening!

Not like we are setting work, marking work, frantically trying to adapt schemes for September, baby sitting key workers children, logged in and available during normal lesson time if not babysitting. Calling our students to check in. Worried about our vulnerable and checking in with them as often as possible. Never mind our own kids.

@Asuitablecat Haha there is something to be said for textbooks sometimes!

@Lenny1980 will there be a thread for each profession asking professionals to outline what they are doing with their working day during lockdown or is it just teachers who have to justify themselves?

If people have a genuine concern they should report it to their own school not come on here and bash teachers for not doing whatever it is they think they should be doing. We couldn't win, surely you can see that,we never have been able to win.

The fact that schools may or may not be opening has nothing to do with me or the vast vast majority of teachers. We have no influence. Our opinions vary as much as any other group but we have no say. As for live lessons I can confirm that they have been advised against in many schools for safeguarding reasons and they just wouldn't work as well as you might think, especially in primary.

I'm not a teacher

Hmm, you sure?

A textbook would be good. School didn't want to let the kids take their maths workbooks home in case they come back this school year.

@Hoppyhops it's good that they are getting to do some activities - hopefully time to work on the tasks set by their normal class teachers could fill some of the day too

Yeah. They dont let a gob like mine anywhere near where children can hear it!

(That was to moonface)

it is starting to feel to me that a lot of teachers are prioritising teaching their own children over teaching their classes.

God forbid people care more about their own children than the children of others...totally unnatural, innit.

Teacher bashing? Ok then hmm

Too many of them and they are oh so defensive (and very sweary) 😂

There are some shite ones at my ds's school

I mean I just... I can't... Why the fuck do we bother engaging?

@penguinsbegin if 3 children in a class need intensive catch-up, surely that's better than 30?

@MinesAPintOfTea You’d think! That would solve lots of ‘dead time’ issues but, annoyingly, in our hub, there’s no time allocated for that (the kids aren’t always the same kids everyday so are expected to do it at home instead). Personally, I disagree, but that’s the way our head has chosen to run it.

His rationale, and to some extent I understand, is that we have kids in our hub aged 8-14 from various different schools in the local area (including a welsh language speaking school) so work will not be ‘consistent enough’ and if there are no welsh speaking teachers on the rota then those kids won’t be able to have help with work.

With the ict facilities available in school though, I think they’d be able to do it but he insists on us planning activities instead.

I hate it- I just want to teach my subject & see my classes- so would love to Zoom teach instead!

Why the fuck do we bother engaging?

I find it quite fun for much of the time. The baiters are as thick as 💩.

I do think now though that quite a few are just in to disrupt now that the BMA are inconveniently siding with the teacher's unions. Certainly the levels of vitriol have gone sky-high since the BMA announcement.

Some of my relatives' children who are at private schools are getting hours and hours of zoom lessons per day. And my cousins report their kids are learning more than usual. My own child at a state primary school has had nothing but worksheets sent to us via on online portal. She dutifully fills them although they are tediously repetitive. They are never marked, corrected and we have yet to receive any feedback at all except from two messages amounting to "Well Done". I'm not bashing any (state school) teachers I suspect they would like to do some teaching surely. I wonder if their hands are being tied by their unions in a way the private school staff aren't. Bottom line is private schools are proving teaching can be done even in lockdown I just don't understand why my DD has had none of it.

I think I do have a right to know whether or not many of them are working hard

How would you do that? Be positive. Make suggestions.

And while I'm here, no-one but no-one has to work hard. They just have to work.

HTH.

Whilst I'm not fussed about zoom lessons I reckon that homeschooling is at least 80 % of the work. It's not just printing off a worksheet and explaining it's making sure the little darlings actually do the fucking work.

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