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Classroom Lessons via Zoom

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jjx111 · 15/05/2020 23:38

AIBU to expect the teachers at my daughter’s rs primary school to offer at least some lessons via Zoom? The feedback I have been given is that that they aren’t offering it due to a) safeguarding issues, and b) it would add to the teachers workload. Well, surely if we parents consent for our child to sign in for these lessons then no safeguarding issue. Plus, at present, we parents are doing at least 60% of the teachers work for them via homeschooling. (I appreciate that they are setting work for the children, but this is part of the planning they would do anyway).

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mumsneedwine · 22/05/2020 09:35

Beat you 😂. I have several classes of 32 and one of 33. Love the idea of libraries for IT - they are closed and unlikely to reopen soon.
Some families do not have wifi or computers. Schools can not buy any as they have no money. We have lent all ours out but still not enough to cover everyone. And some families have 3 kids and one laptop so can't also get access when need it.
On line lessons with 30 is hard work but I think I've got my routine now. Mikes off and questions asked via chat. New hands up function is useful. It is exhausting though.

Divebar · 22/05/2020 10:10

I’m referring to a private tutoring company ( class of 12) not her school class which would be 30. I’m not even arguing that all schools can do this or the parents have capability but just because some can’t doesn’t mean all shouldn’t. I also think my library idea is inspired... I should tell someone. 😂.

grafittiartist · 22/05/2020 10:19

A tech library is an excellent idea!

mumsneedwine · 22/05/2020 10:27

Who is cleaning it 😂

Clavinova · 22/05/2020 11:11

To be fair - there are cheerful shop assistants with disinfectant sprays at the self-service checkouts in my local supermarket now - library staff will probably have to do the same for computer terminals when libraries eventually re-open. Although I can't guarantee the cheerful disposition - the staff at my nearest library are always grumpy - my 11 (then 9) year old was told off for attempting to take a photograph of a bookshelf for a school project - another safeguarding matter apparently - but I was the only other person in the room. He was allowed to take the photograph (of the bookshelf) only after the assistant had been upstairs to check with the library manager - and that was at my request - she initially said, 'No'.

Montsti · 22/05/2020 12:22

My kids go to school abroad...

It is a private school but they follow their usual full curriculum bar sports (videos are uploaded onto the school’s virtual learning network). They have a weekly schedule sent out every Saturday with daily schedules which explain what they will be doing in each lesson.

They have a mix of live lessons (Via Google Meet using their school email addresses) followed by 30 mins to complete the tasks associated with the subject the teacher has been explaining..they then email the work or upload it to Google Classroom. The work is then marked and sent back.

My Year 5 has written weekly tests via Google Classroom and starts his exams next week.

My younger children also go live via Google Meet. My daughter in Reception uses an old phone of ours linked to our Wi-Fi..she has a daily small group (4 children) concentrating on literacy or numeracy primarily then morning greetings and storytime etc...

My daughter in Year 2 has various daily live lessons and then work is set on Seesaw and she uploads it and the teacher responds with feedback. They also use My Oxford Owl for individual reading groups which is great..

We are sent the activities/timetables for the week for all of them the weekend before...teachers are available via email and various contact times daily for any questions.

My kids also have dance, sport and music lessons via Google Meet and Zoom with no issues.

It seems to work well for the most part. Occasionally someone’s internet connection breaks up but other than that, there appear to be few issues.

Montsti · 22/05/2020 12:24

My son’s (Year 5) subject classes are the entire year so 96 children in one lesson...but it seems to work well. A few kids ask questions but most just sit and listen. The teacher is available at the end of the lesson, if necessary..

NeverTwerkNaked · 23/05/2020 08:22

@emilybrontescorsett are you saying that infant school teachers are just glorified childminders then? Because that is the implication of your assertions.

Plus some of us are working very busy full time jobs (albeit from home)

Whynotnowbaby · 23/05/2020 14:05

Montsti that sounds very similar to what we did in my school (international). It worked pretty well but there seem to be so many reasons why “we can’t” put up by U.K. teachers. Most of those can be overcome with a little initiative.

emilybrontescorsett · 23/05/2020 15:01

What I’m saying is why don’t parents teach/play/interact with their children?
I taught all my dcs how to write and recognise their full name before they started school. I counted with them, read to them, taught them the alphabet, took them swimming, taught them how to ride a bike, played board games with them and hundreds Of other things.
Isn’t that what parents do?

GrammarTeacher · 23/05/2020 18:08

@Whynotnowbaby those things ARE being done by teachers in English state schools. Just not all of them because it's not the most appropriate for all schools.

Smellbellina · 23/05/2020 18:44

Isn’t that what parents do?

You’d be suprised how many don’t. Some don’t even teach their child how to dress/undress or toilet train. It’s all someone else’s responsibility.

feelingfragile · 23/05/2020 18:54

Yeah go for it - if you want porn images flashing up halfway through a lesson. Better to use Microsoft teams.

I've been using it 6 or so hours a day for months, never had any porn images. What am I doing wrong?

myself2020 · 23/05/2020 19:06

@feelingfragile you are using changing passwords, admit everyone into meetings, and don’t give screenshare privileges to participants. basically, you are using common online security sense. which makes today’s zoom about as safe as possible (zoom of today is very different from zoom 2 months ago.)

thirdfiddle · 23/05/2020 19:23

So we need to quit our jobs to not be irresponsible parents? That creates a whole raft more problems.

thirdfiddle · 23/05/2020 19:24

(That was to emily)

feelingfragile · 23/05/2020 20:44

@myself2020

Been using it 6 months without any issues - I've heard rumours of problems but never experienced it and definitely no porn. I'd have noticed!

puffinandkoala · 24/05/2020 09:03

Yes Emily that is what aprents do but that is allvery basic stuff.

It isn't educating.

Doing reading and tables at home plus teaching your kids to ride a bike and (presumably paying for swimming lessons unless you can teach swimming yourself) is normal.

Providing full time education to your kids is not normal and teachers are highly qualified professionals who are paid to do it. Most parents are not qualified teachers (and even if they are, it's a different ball game teaching your 5 year old if you are normally an A level physics teacher).

emilybrontescorsett · 24/05/2020 09:11

I'm sorry, I've worked in schools, what is hard about teaching a 5 year old?
It's a serious question.

emilybrontescorsett · 24/05/2020 09:12

Unless you cannot read or write yourself which is a different matter.

LaurieMarlow · 24/05/2020 09:17

Well, I have a PhD in English lit but I don’t know the first thing about phonics, which is how my son’s school teach reading.

emilybrontescorsett · 24/05/2020 09:27

You don't need phonics to know how to read.
It's the latest fad.
I would consider myself and several friends in my book club excellent top notch readers. Bizzarly, non of us were taught to read via phonics.

emilybrontescorsett · 24/05/2020 09:30

I should add I have taught phonics, even though I do not have a degree relating to the subject.
That is the point though.
I don't need a degree to educate my pre school/young children.
I am not teaching them wind drag co-efficients.

LaurieMarlow · 24/05/2020 09:32

You don't need phonics to know how to read.

Of course not. But that’s how my son’s school does it. I don’t want to work against their methods, because that would be problematic in the longer term.

I have no training in teaching any method of reading. I presume it’s a skilled job, that’s certainly what teachers have been stressing for years.

echt · 24/05/2020 09:35

I presume it’s a skilled job, that’s certainly what teachers have been stressing for years

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