Classroom Lessons via Zoom

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AIBU to expect the teachers at my daughter’s rs primary school to offer at least some lessons via Zoom? The feedback I have been given is that that they aren’t offering it due to a) safeguarding issues, and b) it would add to the teachers workload. Well, surely if we parents consent for our child to sign in for these lessons then no safeguarding issue. Plus, at present, we parents are doing at least 60% of the teachers work for them via homeschooling. (I appreciate that they are setting work for the children, but this is part of the planning they would do anyway).

@Cherrysoup we can be cross with your management though, right?

And we have used oak. It's ok. But I would warn teachers against arguing that it is in anyway an adequate substitute unless they want to see their posts replaced with TAs while all the children watch Oak academy in the decades to follow.

Well if little local dance schools can manage it then I am pretty sure schools can.

Plus, at present, we parents are doing at least 60% of the teachers work for them via homeschooling

Then I expect you're spending around 27 hours a week on your child's learning?

And it's not home schooling, it's "remote learning". Home schooling is if your child doesn't attend school normally.

Take the matter up with your child's school then. Or do you need your own wooden spoon and pot to stir?

@NeverTwerkNaked Go to bed. I hope people don’t rise to your posts as you’re just looking for an argument. Instead of criticising teachers, go and do your “vital” role in society.

Unions are strongly advising against video calls.
Teachers have to protect ourselves at this time. Imagine if a teenager claimed that they remained on a video call with their young teacher when everyone else had clicked out? It's not just about the students but safeguarding ourselves too.

I'd at least like to see teachers acknowledge how shit it is for the children who aren't being educated. Id like to see campaigning to sort this. Rather than a "have a look at BBC bitesize/oak academy" type dismissal. Don't they think most mumsnetters have tried that by now and found it wanting. Can't you see it is a compliment to say you can't be replaced by a worksheet or a video.

Actually @NeverTwerkNaked, scrap what I just said. I second @tesslowe

I find it astonishing teachers don't care that children aren't being taught

Well aren't you all very mature

Another point I forgot to add - not all students have access to video call at set times, parents are working from home as well as other siblings and some households may only have access to one computer for example.
Running things this way would put these children at a greater disadvantage to others

And I do agree, for what it's worth, that ideally schools are providing more than a worksheet or two.

But please remember, the decision for the work will have come from the headteacher/SLT and possibly governors. Your average teacher will just be told to do x, y, z. So please direct all ire to your child's headteacher, not us teachers on here!

It's not directed at individual teachers. But nationally it is a scandal that children simply aren't getting taught. Surely if we were all doing posts saying "actually who needs teachers this is easy" that would be worse?

The conversation shoukdnturn to solutions. Maybe other people should be brought in to care for keyworker children to free teachers up to teach.

Secondary school teacher here. I’m setting work/marking for all classes as well as being available for questions at all hours of the day through Teams.

I’m also working in a Hub school, providing care for key workers children.

I don’t have time to Zoom.

@NeverTwerkNaked Maybe you should retrain as it seems as if you think you could do a much better job than everyone else.

Forgot to add that I’m also phoning parents regularly too and speaking to my form class over the phone to check on well-being. I’m frazzled tbh.

@StellaDelMare that doesn't seem like a good reason to hold all children back (when compared to their private sector peers) . The ones who can't access could be then given more support when schools return .

I've just registered my son for a private school. But that's barely an option for me and not an option for most people so my ire is for all the children going without education right now.

@Happyhops no one has called either of our boys. Not once. They haven't heard from school at all. They go to different schools.

@NeverTwerkNaked there's nothing more we want than to get back to our classrooms.

I'm an A level teacher and have worked damned hard to get my year 13 through this year, just for them to find out they can't sit an exam. All that hard work feels like it's gone to waste and the students never got the chance to show their abilities.

As for the current students, it's not ideal, but most education isn't made for distance learning and that's why it doesn't feel good enough to some people. We weren't trained to do distance learning because our curriculum wasn't meant for it. We are doing our best just as everyone is at this time.

To all the teachers out there reading, we do our job because we love our students and want the best for them. Nothing has changed. What you are doing is your best

@ilikebigbuttsandicannotlie can't you see parents are saying the opposite of that! That we can't do it. That we need the teachers to teach.

If it helps, I'm putting my own children last. I'm also ignoring them at weekends, as usual, so I can respond to worried 6th formers.I'm not doing live lessons. I'm spending hours prepping lessons that are differentiated,because its harder stuff when I'm not there to get them to do grouo work Tec,and I'm marking.

I don't expect my kids' primary teachers to do the same as me cos it's different. I'm grateful for what th e y are doing,cos it's hard. I also don't expect my kids to.spend 6hours a day working, cos they just don't in.school.