Classroom Lessons via Zoom

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AIBU to expect the teachers at my daughter’s rs primary school to offer at least some lessons via Zoom? The feedback I have been given is that that they aren’t offering it due to a) safeguarding issues, and b) it would add to the teachers workload. Well, surely if we parents consent for our child to sign in for these lessons then no safeguarding issue. Plus, at present, we parents are doing at least 60% of the teachers work for them via homeschooling. (I appreciate that they are setting work for the children, but this is part of the planning they would do anyway).

the vast majority of us are going above and beyond.

And what about the ones that aren’t?

I am really quite shocked at how the powers that be in the sector have conducted themselves. It’s disgraceful.

And the individual schools and teachers who are working hard to deliver (or would like to be, but are being prevented) should be even more so.

The whining about 'not having been trained' takes the biscuit! Zero initiative - so depressing. How about learning it (takes all of five minutes) and putting your case to the employer that you are keen to trial it?

It’s just a million miles away from the mindset elsewhere. It’s very interesting to see it laid bare.

@penguinsbegin
Please explain how I am supposed to keep 30 5 year olds engaged with paw patrol in the background and a toddler babbling and waving at them?
My dd reception teacher had her toddler sat on her knee reading the hungry caterpillar , twirling round in princess dresses and waving to the children. It was no issue.

It’s just a million miles away from the mindset elsewhere. It’s very interesting to see it laid bare

What IS your job Laurie, out of interest?

Beltanebride, I presume your work has provided you with a laptop though? And are paying for the premium level of Zoom for you? And have agree to protect/defend you if there were to be any legal issues ensuing?

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She has an iPad and an Apple pen, I believe.

What IS your job Laurie, out of interest?

Consultancy / commercial research

It’s ok Penguin - I’m overly touchy 😂😂

Consultancy / commercial research

That’s not an area I know anything about. How have you had to adapt to the lockdown?

How many teachers don’t have access to a laptop? Or can they only use school laptops - I’m sure there will be some safeguarding or union rule about that too!

We don't have staff laptops, we used to and they were given out to students.

@penguinsbegin the story was only five minutes of the lesson. Her toddler played at her side for the other 40 minutes.

Reception children were expected to sit and pay attention to a lesson for over 40 minutes? I'd be impressed with any teacher who could get them to do that, after about 10 minutes my old Reception class used to start rolling around and that was with me in the room!

Please explain how I am supposed to keep 30 5 year olds engaged with paw patrol in the background and a toddler babbling and waving at them?

Sounds like the recipe for super engaged 5 yr olds to me. They love little kids. Do you have any kiddie headphones for the paw patrol? Perhaps a colleague might be able to help you out, lots of us with older kids will have some hanging around. I think you may be underestimating how much it would mean to your 5 yr olds to see your face, live or recorded. Obviously if school have decreed you may not then it's not up to you. It sounds like they're getting more interaction from you than my kids teachers are being allowed anyway.

a 45 minutes zoom session isn’t one lesson. that would go terribly wrong. its lots of different things, including some movement stuff. It does require a skilled teacher, but it can be done (my son’s school does 30 minutes for older kids, 45 for younger because logging in and out of zoom requires help for the little ones).

Someone asked if the school provided a laptop. They were offering them to those without but I have my own. Cheap from Curry's and I can do the job perfectly well on it, if you are not simply looking for obstacles. Look for obstacles and you find them everywhere.
Many people working from home have serious jobs and manage without bleating that their feral toddler impedes online meetings.

Someone? Anybody?
I'd love for Laurie or any of the other posters on here how clearly have no fucking clue what it's like working in the cash-strapped shit-show that has been education for the last God-knows how many years, come back and answer my questions as to WHO is going to pay for laptops for all teachers, plus their £15pcm subscription to Zoom, plus legal protection for any issues. My dh has been told he will be personally liable.
Come on, no whining or ducking it. Who and how?

They were offering them to those without but I have my own.
So teachers are expected to prop up the Education service yet further out of their own pockets? I wonder if Laurie has had to do that for her work in "Consutlancy/Commercial response," whatever the hell that is.
Thing is, I don't know, which is why I am asking, rather than spouting on about areas of employment I know nothing about.

Own pockets? I have a laptop of my own - it hardly gets worn out if I also use it for schoolwork! The obstructive mentality of some posters is astounding.

You are spectacularly missing the point, Beltane.

So teachers are expected to prop up the Education service yet further out of their own pockets?

Basically yes. I have has to buy a laptop and various other things so I can teach remotely from home. I have also spent time researching and training myself and my department so we can deliver effective lessons online and give feedback. But somehow because I don't use zoom I am lazy can't do shite with a bleating feral toddler!

@penguinsbegin
No I said the same thing in both posts.
Last weeks literacy lesson went like this
Unmute each child Individually to give news.
Scavenger hunt - children had to find items starting with sh , or the letter p, or l etc. Then say what items they had found and what letter or sound their item began with.
Everyone sang a phonics song they already knew from school with the teacher.
The teacher read the very hungry caterpillar story with her toddler on her knee.

During most of the lesson you could see said toddler playing and twirling in a princess dress next to her mum.
Apologies though I just checked and the lesson was 40 minutes not 45.