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Just teacher I won't be sending DS back to school

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TheGoldenNugget · 14/05/2020 15:47

Just got off the phone with DS teacher, we spoke about schools opening in June and she asked me if I'm planning to send him back when they open. I said no. Anyone else not sending their kids back when schools open in a few weeks?

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ritatherockfairy · 14/05/2020 20:21

Secondary school has basically said no-one will be back before September apart from Year 10(?). They are increasing online resources and video for the younger year groups.
Primary sent out a questionnaire yesterday to see how many would be interested in going back. I said no for my DC based on our own personal circumstances. I totally respect anyone that makes a different decision. To be honest I suspect teachers will be relieved if the take-up is less than 50%. For a small village infant school (with three teachers and three classrooms), asking Reception and Year 1 to go back is asking for two thirds of the school to return. I don't see how they will do it within the guidelines.

Bubblysqueak · 14/05/2020 20:27

Completely agree GrimmsFairytale

GrimmsFairytales · 14/05/2020 20:30

but now it will be those nasty, lefty, lazy bloody teachers' fault.

The blame game is already happening. Sad

Heartlake · 14/05/2020 20:30

If my kids go back it's likely I'll lose all childcare because they won't be able to see grandparents. Which is ironic.

Ethelfleda · 14/05/2020 20:34

Prof Russell Viner, president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, said The syndrome is "exceptionally rare", he said.
"This shouldn't stop parents letting their children exit lockdown," Prof Viner added

From the BBC article linked to upthread

TeacupDrama · 14/05/2020 20:34

my child would be going back the day they open but as we are in Scotland this looks like being August

The risk to children from covid is almost zero, in England 11 children have died with/of covid 8 had underlying conditions for context approxiamtely 5000 people under 20 die each year, 2800 before 1st birthday 2200 between ages 1-20 that is about 5.5 children per day or 1 in 13,000 children each year; the 2 biggest causes of death in under 20's are accidents and suicides some will be very sick children as well
The actual risk of death from covid for someone under 20 who is healthy is about 1 in 15000, ( 1 in 62,000 if 10 or under) in both cases this is less than the normal risk of death

in England also the number of people under 60 with no underlying health conditions is about 300 out of 26,000 (England not UK) this is also around 1%

papiermaches · 14/05/2020 20:35

I doubt the schools will re-open at the start of June but probably not. I'm from NI and following the advise there, and will be giving DCs the summer holiday time I used to have, 8-9 full weeks off.

papiermaches · 14/05/2020 20:39

I'm more concerned that DC get to see their grandparents and have some socialising with friends than any formal schooling

ramseyspamsey · 14/05/2020 20:42

Im not sending mine

How do you honestly think/believe you're gonna keep reception kids at a desk, not moving and social distancing, especially those with EHCP's and additional needs?

Are they going to attempt to implement social distancing? I didn't think they were.

I would send mine back, yes. I don't really see any reason not to.

Oaktree55 · 14/05/2020 20:45

100% not. How can people be so relaxed over this virus. Our kids are not guinea pigs and trust me this return to school is a “pilot study” to see what the effect is!!! Crazy there could well be lifelong consequences for kids even mildly affected. Prepared to take that risk? I’m not!

Pinkchocolate · 14/05/2020 20:47

No, I won’t be sending mine in June. He might be a low risk but I’d be concerned about him passing it to one of us who wouldn’t survive it. While the deaths are still so high I’m not prepared to risk it.

applemango9 · 14/05/2020 20:47

Me too. I won't send my DD to school in June. It's too soon.

newusername2009 · 14/05/2020 20:52

Mine are going in

Feenie · 14/05/2020 21:05

'Government’s ‘road map out of lockdown’ is too fast, too confusing and too risky, says BMA'

www.bma.org.uk/news-and-opinion/government-s-road-map-out-of-lockdown-is-too-fast-too-confusing-and-too-risky-says-bmafbclid=iwar2ntdxjlvgxvtfh9gcf6cwujxmclnzzyspjjkxx6arxrxlydugxgiz6ed0

Inkpaperstars · 14/05/2020 21:07

Haven't rtft but I would guess it's good that parents feel differently about this. If no one went back they couldn't start to test out the effect on R and how precautions can function in school setting. But if everyone goes back at once it will be much more challenging while they are setting up new systems.

starrynight19 · 14/05/2020 21:19

Boredsheep
From the different posts I’ve seen on what individual schools will be doing, it’s very clear which schools have the teachers who don’t want the children back and which ones will make it the best they can.

That is totally not the case for any teacher I know. Schools have welcomed key worker children in and made school as positive an environment as it could possibly be.
Now they are being asked to make provision for 50% of the school.
Of course things will have to become an awful lot stricter because they care. About the children , their colleagues and their families.
Teachers on here are so upset because they are already worried about how the children are going to cope with all these restrictions on them.

AuditAngel · 14/05/2020 21:30

I have completed our school’s questionnaire. DD2 (9) wants to go back, but she is asthmatic so I have concerns and want to see the guidance. She is in Yr4 so not in the first wave to return.

Our school is planning 8-10 in a group depending on classroom size, they may not be with their friends.

We are doing fine with school work at home, DH is furloughed, I’m WFH .

DD2 needs her friends, I don’t need childcare. I would prefer her to mix with a friend in a bubble then return her to school.

I have said “tell me your asthma guidance”

GrimmsFairytales · 14/05/2020 21:32

I have said “tell me your asthma guidance”

You've asked the school for guidance about asthma and Covid-19?

BirdieDance · 14/05/2020 21:39

I think that when we talk about death rates of young children we have to remember where they've been all this time. Young children having been going to work, going shopping etc. They haven't been mixing outside of their families at all. The truth is, we have no idea how many children might be affected once the school gates open and social distancing ends for them.

Nicknacky · 14/05/2020 21:41

Oaktree55 So when will you send your kids back to school?

BeBaBoBa · 14/05/2020 21:53

I’m a teacher. I’m happy to return to work when needed. I will not be wearing PPE unless made mandatory.

MissusMaker · 14/05/2020 21:58

Our lovely school sent out an info email yesterday with a link to a survey asking if we are intending to send DC back. The letter clearly encourages parents to send DC in; they say they will not be providing online learning/materials for homeschooling once the kids go back (will still provide for year groups not allowed to go in).

They have been excellent through this whole thing and I have a lot of faith in the school.

Alpacca · 14/05/2020 22:02

I'm a Year R teacher. To those thinking that school's website was extreme, sadly it's not. Negatively worded, yes. But their outlines are very similar to every other school I have heard from in my area.

I had a planning meeting yesterday and my team were forced to make exactly these decisions, despite being completely ethically and professionally adversed to them. We have made these decisions because of the guidance and the desire to keep the children, our families and ourselves physically safe.

I am distraught. This is not why we do the job. This is not nurturing. The first thing they teach you when you become a teacher is Blooms Taxonomy: this new way of schooling goes completely against that. We will do our best and put on a brave face, but we are being forced against our better judgement.

If a child falls over, we aren't allowed to help them "Just try to clean it up yourself". If a child is sad and needs a hug - "Sorry, I'm not allowed to cuddle you. Just get a tissue... and then wash your hands!"

It is heartbreaking.

School will not be the same. Personally, the new version of school with all it's harsh new rules and distancing will be more damaging than keeping them off until the R drops for it to be safer.

Send them in if you absolutely must, we will do our best... but it's not the school we want and it's not the school that they need.

hiredandsqueak · 14/05/2020 22:03

Dd has been at school throughout. Her school is running as it did previously only children are attending two days a week to ensure there are enough staff. Hers is a Steiner school so lots of outdoor learning spaces that they possibly are using even more now, classes are tiny anyway (4 in dd's) so feel very fortunate. Not sure I would be sending dd to sit at a desk and not move though.

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