Just teacher I won't be sending DS back to school

[TheGoldenNugget]

Just got off the phone with DS teacher, we spoke about schools opening in June and she asked me if I'm planning to send him back when they open. I said no. Anyone else not sending their kids back when schools open in a few weeks?

Mr pickes
That’s ridiculous ! Comparing children with prisoners!! Prison officers can’t just let the criminals be on there on or wander the streets ! Like nurses doctors and shop workers. This is about the health and safety of the pupils and staff and the rule is maintaining the distance. I would love to know where theses children are going to go to the toilet.

Loveita
So I work in a hospital I pass it to my daughter who attends school with your child and passes it to you are you happy with that ??

It’s no ones fault if it gets passed on!

@Joodleoodle this is rubbish and scaremongering. Lots of people are currently returning to work under government guidelines and NHS staff have been working constantly. Any teachers worth their salt know the benefits to children being at schools as opposed to being at home. In an idea world every child will have a dedicated loving adult at home to.sit and teach them everything but this isnt always the case or possible.

A 3o year old and 41 year old have died this week no underlying health issues yes they worked in hospitals but no one knows how there body will react to this virus

I’ve not said it’s no ones fault what I’ve said Is this mentality I’m ok and my kids are healthy is not a guarantee that you will be completely fine if you got it

To be honest there are alot of false and fabricated stories going around that can't be substantiated. The best thing for my child is to get back to a normal way of life and not accept the 'new normal' its bullshit and a way of controlling people. Not nice. I maybe hounded but I've seen my nan every week social distances in her garden after dropping her shopping off because otherwise she wouldn't have seen any one else and she lost her husband recently. How can I deny that? Its bullshit. The government are tiptoeing around it but we have to start integrating other wise society will crumble. Fact

I think it’s funny how some people are saying there is no way they will send their child to school, but then in September, even if it’s the same situation all of a sudden it will be fine to send little Timmy into school!!!

Dd is year 6 & they are a tiny year group. She will be returning Mon, Weds, Fri. School will be cleaned on Tues, Thurs & Sat. I don’t think I’d send her if she was year r or 1 & could have the time off work, but I think it’s important for her to finish primary school life. We are so sad it’s ending this way though, as our school really is like one big family, in a lovely village, with beautiful grounds. Lots of outdoor play/forest school areas & much more. Really hoping the weather will be nice & they can get outside lots. Fingers crossed.

No one has said that. People who aren't sending thei DC back in June have said they'll reassess come September based on what the situation looks like at that point and what control measures are in place.

@LoveitaI will be reassessing the situation in september, doesn't mean I will send them back then, there will be no chance they will be going before then anyway as now shielding till 30th June anyway but will have to really consider if I may need to keep home educating fr the foreseeable future due to SEN on top of whats going on. Both need 1 to 1 plus other things in place that arent possible looking at what another member has posted earlier in this thread so school environment would no longer be suitable for them as it stands. If no SEN I would still prefer to reassess situation in September but then I am lucky enough to already be working at home and be able to educate them. Every persons situation in here is different.

Well I for one am dreading it as it falls on my first week back-as much as I love my job and the children My colleagues are shattered doing two days a week with between 9-18 children in. We have a TA and a teacher in while the teacher starts the children on the task the TA are running around getting resources for the next task ( laptops, art equipment paper paint etc) and spending the rest of their time/day bloody cleaning in between, helping them with their work, trying to keep them apart and not having any time away from them due to having to spend break/lunch supervising them. From the moment they get in they are wiping pencils and other equipment the children are using, table tops, door handles, playtime equipment, sinks taps and toilet seats also reminding children to stay apart and doing first aid as safely as they can. Colleagues have no PPE or hand gel. The head or a member of slt are in too but they have no contact with the children and are quite safe in the office with a nice big bottle of hand sanitiser...actually I’m going to stop as it’s the weekend and I don’t want to have to think about the shit show and next crisis that’s going to come out of too many children in schools.

Does ASD mean you're more or less inclined to send them to school.

I know this question wasn't asked directly to me but I have two children with ASD who ar ein the returning year groups and their ASD has been a key factor in our decision not to send them back to school. The school we would be sending them back to is not the one they know, it's not going to be familiar people in a familiar classroom with a familiar routine and these things are going to be more harmful their emotional health than staying at home for the foreseeable future. There is no way either of them could cope with the list of rules sent out by their respective schools and they wouldn't be careful enough at keeping their distance from others, handwashing and hygiene - eldest in particular mouth anything that makes it's way into his hands, caught him chewing on the end of the Sky remote earlier

School have also said that the children in school will be doing the same work as the children at home and in the same fashion so I don't particularly see the point of them being in school when they can just as easily do that work at home in a more relaxed environment.

Neither of mine will be going back in June. Dc2 teacher said I'd definitely made the right choice.

@Glitterbug76 I am a ward nurse so I and my family no doubt already have Covid19 amongst many other things - all the more reason to stay active and eat the righty things.

My son will not go back as me and his father are in the vulnerable catagory, both having many underlying conditions. Until they have Test,track and trace we will keep him at home, maybe in September we will send him with a mask and hand gel. Hope you all stay safe and well.

@Loveita
I think schools (& parents) will use evidence to assess the risk. As a ward nurse, you'll be aware that over 240 children in the UK have been hospitalised for Covid 19 & additionally 100 children ( particularly under 5s) have presented w/ Kawasaki-like symptoms. Schools (& parents) are asking for the rates of child to child & child to adult transmission.

The antibody test will likely be available for public use end May/ beginning June, so we will have a better sense of who will have ( at least temporary) immunity. Remdesivir trials have been positive for treating symptoms, so again, this would need further research on larger scale.

With regards to availability of antibody testing, Remdesivir treatment etc, June 1st is an arbitrary date ( dictated by school calendar, but not available medical treatment). So, mid June could be logical with regards to medical treatment available (& later).

@45redballoon ha ha, people haven’t been left to get on with it? Are you certain of that?!! So wrong!!

The thing a lot of you seem to be missing, is the fact that the government and the Chief Medical Officer (the guy who kinda knows what he's talking about...) have predicted that at the rate things are going, IF the rates CONTINUE to fall, then by the time June 1st comes around, that it will be safe for children & teachers to attend school. It's not set in stone and of course, if figures change then it will not happen.

These people are experts. It's not just the government sat in an office going "Ah, sod it!!"

If you think about how crazy the figures were two or three weeks ago and how things have improved since, you can see why they believe/believed that a further 3 weeks down the line that things would be good enough to open schools without the need for STRICT social distancing (just where possible).
Yes I know the regulations have been relaxed slightly so that will inevitably slow improvements down.
However I like to think that the experts including Professors of Epidemiology and Virology have a slightly better idea about this than us!!

To be making set decisions right now about school and informing school staff (regardless of whether school staff are demanding answers now. I will be telling my DD's school that yes, IF they open then absolutely my child will be attending) that your child won't be going - and therefore thinking you know better than Professors & medical experts - at this stage is frankly wrong. Sorry.

I know this won't be a popular opinion but it's just that - my opinion.

@YankeeinKingArthursCourt exactly. Very low numbers, not enough to stop life as we know it. Back to work and school. And ps you have no idea when a vaccine will be ready

I'll be sending mine back, I think the benefits out way the negatives, he needs to get back too school for many reasons such as social, he has definitely fallen behind with his school work as it's just not the same depth of work at home. He needs his routine back, and something to aim for everyday. He can't wait to go back... And neither can I 😁

I wouldn't be expecting proper lessons to start with when your children go back, resources will be restricted as not allowed to share. Also the group your child might be assigned to won't necessarily have a teacher, it might be a teaching assistant. Children are used to working in groups, which also won't be allowed.

Haven't the BMA said that the Government plans for school are too quick?

Not a chance in hell

Staggered that any posters would be so eager to take the risk given the lack of organisation/preparedness/short time frame. I get key workers/dire financial circumstances/those who do it with caution and trepidation etc.. but a few posters seem so gleeful to get rid I wonder why they wanted to be parents in the first place

Mine are far better off at home at the moment.

These people are experts. It's not just the government sat in an office going "Ah, sod it!!"

It should be straightforward then to see the modelling they have done to predict the spread of the virus after opening, which would inform the risk assessment of how many children it is safe to have in a group, and how likely it is to have an infection within your school.

It should also be straightforward to see the details of how many children and teachers are likely to get sick, as it would inform the risk assessment of how many staff you are likely to lose and how many floaters you might possibly need.

We should also see the evidence that backed up their decision that social distancing is not necessary for staff to work with the youngest children.

But the DfE scientist hasn't done any of this modelling, and the decision on which year groups and start dates was "a Cabinet Office decision". Hint: that means Boris did it without Gavin's approval, which is why he is looking more and more pissed off and having less and less to say every day.

Barbie
That’s a really good point about teachers getting sick but like some ones made a point people are not factoring this in !!
I hope people are not under the illusion that we could be back to square one and all be back on lock down again. Would love to know who these parents think will look after there children if the teachers get it !! Or will look after the nhs If key worker children can’t go to school !!!