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Just teacher I won't be sending DS back to school

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TheGoldenNugget · 14/05/2020 15:47

Just got off the phone with DS teacher, we spoke about schools opening in June and she asked me if I'm planning to send him back when they open. I said no. Anyone else not sending their kids back when schools open in a few weeks?

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GrimmsFairytales · 14/05/2020 19:26

BubblySqueak

“One of the SAGE groups has done various bits of modelling for different scenarios on what years you can bring back. My understanding is those will be published in due course.”

Imagine if I tried to present my finding like this to my boss.

I haven't done any modelling, but one of the other departments has done some bits. Oh you want them now... Well that's not possible, you can have them at some point in the future.

This isn't acceptable in any work places, so why is it acceptable for such a huge decision during a pandemic.
Confused

pennylane83 · 14/05/2020 19:26

@exLtEveDallas
they will enter school and each year/class will split in half, less the key workers/vulnerable children who have been attending all along - they will stay together

I'm curious, R, Yr1, Yr6 going back I assume will be tought the curriculum as per a normal school day. With the keyworker/vulnerable children who have always been in attendance and will remain in the same group, if they are a mixed age group will they be taught the curriculum as per normal for their age or will they still be doing holiday club type activities?

ineedaholidaynow · 14/05/2020 19:26

www.facebook.com/molekloadedfries/videos/679483542834732/UzpfSTc0OTMyNjEwMToxMDE1OTc2NDE2NTUwNjEwMg/

Maybe we could adopt the Chinese method of social distancing and PPE in our schools

Frouby · 14/05/2020 19:28

Up until this afternoon ds (year 1) was going.

Having spoken to his head teacher now he isn't. Not until at least July and probably not until September. Because his head was so negative and didn't want to commit to teaching the curriculum, him being in a class with his friendship group or having his teacher. Nor to the social distancing measures not being scary.

So he's staying home for now.

pennylane83 · 14/05/2020 19:30

Statistically no more teachers have died than any other profession.

Because of the partial closure of schools.

Absolutely no way of proving that statement

ineedaholidaynow · 14/05/2020 19:31

@pennylane83 I think certainly at first it will be like glorified childcare. Our local schools are proposing that the work the children are currently being sent home will be done in class, as there will also be children at home so they still need to do remote learning. So no proper lessons, certainly to start with.

Obviously if this goes on into the September term then that will probably change, but schools are having to adapt very fast to this new world.

Canyouhelpme · 14/05/2020 19:40

I love how people on this thread are saying schools are vital and then in the same breath say teachers should suck it up despite being told we can’t and won’t have PPE. Also the idea that people under 50 and children are low risk is idiotic, we may be low risk but if we get it it will spread so quickly and I’m not low risk, neither are my family. I work in a special provision, the kids I work with spit and need to be touched and restrained at times. To hear people up in arms about careers having a lack of PPE and then in the same breath attacking teachings is honestly disgusting. I love my job, I love my class but I am not willing to die for it or kill my family.

pennylane83 · 14/05/2020 19:42

@Yoyoallovertheshow

It is a difficult decesion to make and one that will be dependant on everyones individual family circumstances and their own schools approach to interpretting the guidelines in relation to their own building/staffing etc. Theres no right or wrong answer.

TheBenefitsPeople · 14/05/2020 19:42

It is absolutely devastating to me to read the vitriol and disparaging comments against teaching staff on this thread.
I work in a school, in a pastoral capacity, completing my degree to progress into educational psychology. I am more than aware of the burning need to get children back into school, which for a lot of the children I work with is their only safe place.

My head has had to put measures into place much like the ones previously posted. It's not being negative to discourage people sending their children in. It's desperatley tring to keep famililes and staff safe.

Whilst I am at low risk of serious complications, my husband is not. I am faced with letting down the children and staff I work with, in what will be a very difficult environment, or risking my husbands health and at the worst case, life. I have looked into key-worker accomadation so I can move out for the duration, but am told it is for 'front line workers' only.

I can't help but wonder if some of the angry posts on here are from parents at my school? Our staff are doing everything in their power to make this work. But if this is the general opinion then I wonder why I am bothering?

It is honestly making me wonder if my career has been of any worth at all when it is being implied that my justified concerns are being dismissed as being negative at best and workshy at the worst.

Boredsheep · 14/05/2020 19:45

@Frouby we are a yes at the moment, but I have asked about the issues you have raised and will make my decision based on what they reply.

From the different posts I’ve seen on what individual schools will be doing, it’s very clear which schools have the teachers who don’t want the children back and which ones will make it the best they can.

I’ll have to wait and see which our school is like.

sunflowersandtulips50 · 14/05/2020 19:46

we have had a online questionnaire sent for our reception class asking if we would send our kid in on the 1st June- every parent has said yes. Will see what happens next

canonlydoblue · 14/05/2020 19:48

I'm a teacher. I found out yesterday what my school would operate like from 1st June. Despite the fact that I am all for children and adults getting back into normality, this is not it. The mental health of these children is going to suffer and I will not be sending my three and five year old back to that.

Crimsonnightlotus · 14/05/2020 19:57

I think it's totally up to you. I don't think the children in yr R/1 or yr6 would miss out much by not going to school.
Secondary is different, but primary, no I don't think I would.

Notcrackersyet · 14/05/2020 19:59

My partner is not sending his primary aged daughter back to school. It’s basically going to be childcare with all children obligated to stay in their taps square. He is concerned that she’ll hate it and spend all summer worrying about going back in September and so it’s not worth the risk of damaging her attitude towards school. Homeschooling is going fine and he’s not working so it’s an easy choice overall.

user127819 · 14/05/2020 20:02

It sounds to me like the back to school plan relies on some children being kept off, and I can't imagine much learning will really be going on, so if you can keep your children at home and homeschool, by all means do. Just like those who can work from home, should.

FishOnPillows · 14/05/2020 20:02

My children are moving schools after the half term as they’re moving area. After discussing with both their old and new headteachers, they won’t be going to school until September.

School this term will be nothing like a normal school, and moving schools is hard enough at the best of times, never mind in this situation. We’re aiming for a visit to their new school near the end of term to help their transition, and they’ll be doing zoom meetings with their current classes to say goodbye.

ineedaholidaynow · 14/05/2020 20:05

Our schools have planned part-time. Have you got a link to the non part-time @Feenie. I knew you were meant to prioritise the youngest which in our case would be nursery, which just seems ridiculous.

Yelllow · 14/05/2020 20:10

My son will not be attending. I'm happy to keep him home in our safe little bubble until the fall. He has no idea that schools might be opening anyways.

Feenie · 14/05/2020 20:10

www.gov.uk/government/publications/preparing-for-the-wider-opening-of-schools-from-1-june/planning-guide-for-primary-schools

We trust headteachers to make the best decisions they can. If you still cannot get enough cover in place and an arrangement which enables eligible children to attend consistently at another local school is not manageable, schools should focus first on continuing to provide places for priority groups of all year groups (children of critical workers and vulnerable children). Then, to support children’s early learning, you should prioritise groups of children as follows:

early years settings - 3 and 4 year olds followed by younger age groups
infant schools - nursery (where applicable) and reception
primary schools - nursery (where applicable), reception and year 1
Schools should not plan on the basis of a rota system, either daily or weekly.

Feenie · 14/05/2020 20:12

It also says if you can't be arsed to take any notice of such badly planned, hastily written bollocks, feel free to ignore - even we don't believe most of it.

I may be paraphrasing.

DuckPatrol · 14/05/2020 20:14

My Y1 son won’t be going in, I just feel it’s too soon and actually he’s fine learning at home at the minute - no concerns about his mental health etc. My 3yo DD is finding this much harder, she’s fed up and bored and missing other little ones.

ineedaholidaynow · 14/05/2020 20:15

I so wish it said that last bit @Feenie

Maybelatte · 14/05/2020 20:16

They won’t be open in June, the government are being overly ambitious and probably trying to keep everyone on side. Boris loves to play the best mate role. It isn't safe for schools to reopen right now.

Feenie · 14/05/2020 20:17

Me too! It does, kind of:

Schools are not required to use this guide, and may choose to follow alternative approaches to preparing for wider opening, or to use some sections of this guidance alongside other approaches. We hope that some of these suggestions will be helpful to headteachers who are leading this important work, to support their own decision-making.

Helpful?! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Feenie · 14/05/2020 20:20

It isn't safe for schools to reopen right nowI

I agree they have known that all along - but now it will be those nasty, lefty, lazy bloody teachers' fault.

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