Just teacher I won't be sending DS back to school

[TheGoldenNugget]

Just got off the phone with DS teacher, we spoke about schools opening in June and she asked me if I'm planning to send him back when they open. I said no. Anyone else not sending their kids back when schools open in a few weeks?

Of course it appears all fine and smiley. We are professionals who are used to putting on a brave face for the children and keeping parents calm is part of keeping children calm. That's our job. We go in when we are ill, grieving, exhausted, anxious, doubled over from period cramps, etc. and just get on with our job like everything's fine. Just as many other people do in all sorts of jobs.

Exactly. And many people in all sorts of jobs are getting on with it as best they can now too

The way many people are working has evolved over the last few weeks. The Government have produced guidance for employers showing what needs to be provided in the workplace and how social distancing should be maintained. But this guidance does not seem to work in conjunction with the guidance given to teachers.

Exactly. And many people in all sorts of jobs are getting on with it as best they can now too

Teaching staff have been getting on with it? They have been going in to support the children of key workers? Now numbers of children in schools is going to rise considerably with no though given to transmission rate.
Is this a race to the bottom? Because the crisis has been handled badly in other sectors everyone one should just suck it up unquetioningly? I think you are a bit hard of thinking, or completely lacking in empathy.

You cannot put teachers and school staff in as being as frontline as care and nursing staff. We're in a totally different position, nowhere near as at risk.

It honestly feels like there are youngish female teachers on here genuinely terrified for their lives at the thought of teaching in a school. Any sense of risk has been thrown totally out of proportion.

@TheBenefitsPeople have you noticed you end every post with a nasty comment - often regarding someone being ‘thick’ or ‘uneducated’ if they don’t share your views.

A. It’s not a kind way to behave even if you disagree with someone
B. It’s dangerous to dismiss everyone with a different view as ‘thick’

@Flamingodial The reference to people as 'uneducated' was in respone to your statement about teacher so it looks like you are in there with the nasty comments. There’s a lot of hysteria amongst (strangely) uneducated teachers on this subject

@Floatyboat Not sure I can be classified as notorious, but if troll means having a different opinion to you?
Of course people have considered transmission rates when thinking about opening schools Just fyi heres a link to the scientific advisor to the Department of Education admitting he hadn't factored virus transmission into the modelling, so it's not just me not liking peoples judgements

schoolsweek.co.uk/dfe-chief-scientific-adviser-admits-he-hasnt-assessed-school-reopening-guidance/amp/?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR3kI_4W0KkgJkuZbm2jC-v4m_iMeIRtUUsgPE_XaU1Mc6eirvXIAuxtKgE

@thebenefitspeople I was referring to posters who haven’t read the actual guidance not to their level of intelligence. Just try and be kind.

@Floatyboat thanks - that makes a lot of sense! I’ll ignore the troll now.

@TheBenefitsPeople

You're willfully taking things out of context. He is in DfE, not sage. At least try to be balanced.

It hardly seems worth sending them back at all really. All that hassle for 6 weeks. Just sack it off until September. And have everything in place for then, giving more time to sort things out.
My dd isn’t back until September as she’s the year of cancelled GCSEs.

@Floatyboat he's the scientific adviser to the DfE. Shouldn't he have reviewed the evidence?

Getting back before the holidays would be useful to allow support ahead of the holidays when teachers won't be around to help teach online etc. Also useful as tester for getting things going properly in September. The holiday can be used to address teething problems.

@Barbie222

Maybe. The op asserted nobody had looked at them, which is clearly ludicrous. Finding one person that hasn't doesn't mean nobody has.

He is in DfE, not sage

Wouldn't it be a good idea if there was joined up thinking between all the scientists that are advising the government? Surely his understanding of how the virus could be transmitted within schools is the most important part of his role?

I'm not defending him, but he is just one guy. You seem to be arguing nobody has thought about this stuff, which is daft.

You won't be alone OP.

The government have mishandled schools during this crisis and are passing the buck when you read the guidance document. I think the government are passing the buck to schools so they can blame schools if it doesn't work and take credit if it does due to large numbers of parents keeping their children off still.

I love the way I'm being told to be kind and then being called a troll in the same post. Breathtaking hypocrisy.

Why shouldn't I voice my concerns? Should I just stay quiet whilst the job I do is ripped to bits? Am I expected not to react to the ridicule of my concerns? Is picking apart the turn of phrase used in a post is more important than the bigger picture of rushed guidance and goverment failings?

Obviously so. If some of the posters on here are representative of the general population then I don't know why I bother in my job!

Just make your language more precise and quickly acknowledge when people point out something you have said is unjustified. Your approach on doubling down on incorrect comments just turns discussions into polarised back and forth.

Yes agree with Floatyboat, take a step back and think how you would respond if you were debating a point in person. Calling the other party thick would be an unlikely tactic @TheBenefitsPeople

I won't be sending lb until September or when this is over or until i can visit the school to make sure things are in place to keep them safe x

I'm really hoping not many people send children in. This is because we are both keyworkers and my 5 year old has to go in every day. The less people send their kids in the safer it is for mine.

Mine are absolutely going back as soon as they can. I received an email today from
DC’s school about phased return and DS1 is gutted that he is not in the first group as he is year 5.

I am shielding so my primary age children are not going back. I don’t trust the government for one second. Useless inexperienced bunch of idiots.