to think that this will bring about England as a separate country after this?

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Is Boris Johnson the Prime Minister of the UK in name only? He seems to have forgotten about the rest of the UK in his speech as it was mainly about what people can and can't do in England.

Are there police on the border crossings in Wales and Scotland?

This crisis must be playing into the hands of people who would like to see the other countries in the UK as sovereign states recognised by the UN (as Richard Osmond would say)

Personally speaking, I think it would be good to have England as its own country. And good for the other countries as well. We could of course co-operate economically, have freedom of movement and free trade etc.

Does anyone know if there are police at the borders at the moment?

Hes done multiple speeches since this started, he's mentioned that his rules are for England only as Wales, scotland, northern ireland set their own quite a few times. Why are you just concentrating on one speech?

@Sandybval what I think MrsJayy is trying to point out is that your post sounds as if you think England and England alone fund Scotland and Wales

I think there is checkpoints Wales seems to be about this though but it is a border not checkpoint charlie

@stooriehouse It’s not as straightforward as that - - this link has a good diagram of the process: evel.uk/how-does-evel-work/

God I hope not, couldn't bear to be part of the "Little England" massive.

Certainly wouldn't blame Scotland or Wales for wanting it though!

Hes done multiple speeches since this started, he's mentioned that his rules are for England only as Wales, scotland, northern ireland set their own quite a few times

Because the rules have changed - and now England is very different to the rest of the UK.

It's something he should have focused on when he did his recent speech

I think there is checkpoints Wales seems to be about this though but it is a border not checkpoint charlie

That's reassuring

Thanks @zscaler. I'll have a read of that now

Hi OP. I actually feel the opposite; that BJ wants the UK to move as one, however the devolved administrations are insisting on their own paths, forcing BJ to talk to England rather than the whole of the UK.

I like to think that Nicola Stugeon and the Welsh first minister are acting in the best interests of their citizens given a slight difference in circumstances to what is best for England. The cynic in me thinks that they like to be different for difference' sake and paint BJ as reckless.

I don't think anybody was confused by his speech we all know where we are at in our own countries just a shame it isn't unitied.

But England are the ones who have "changed the rules" and done things differently so how can it be the devolved govs doing their own thing? He didn't even let the devolved govs that he was changing the "slogan". Hardly him wanting to move the UK forward!

I don't think anybody was confused by his speech we all know where we are at in our own countries just a shame it isn't unitied

I agree - I don't think people living in the countries outside England were confused. However - what message do people living in England have about the rest of the UK when they heard that? How many people living in England are aware that the rules are different outside of England?

Everanewbie

I'm not sure why you think they are the ones that want to be different given that its BJ who is choosing to go down a different path right now.

Also our R number is higher in Scotland so it would be totally irresponsible to follow his plan.

He has set out these guidelines not taking into account the rest of the UK, leaving no choice but for them to take a different route. He broke the 4 nation approach not anyone else.

Do you think this is just about England in the way he speaks?

Can you tell me how many paragraphs in his speech only apply to England? (I can't count them because I don't know what is applicable to England only, and what isn't)

My impression is that most of it is vague and high-level enough that it could apply to the whole UK. But I only skimmed it quickly.

God I hope not, couldn't bear to be part of the "Little England" massive.

What's the little England massive?

Personally speaking, I think it would be good to have England as its own country

Why do you think this?

But I do agree, Boris did not make it clear in that speech on Sunday that it related to England only. He should have. I’m in Scotland and know it only related to England, but he certainly didn’t make it clear. In fact the opposite.

"Because the rules have changed - and now England is very different to the rest of the UK."
Englands rules were always different to Wales's.

Give examples. For example, when he says there is going to be quarantining of people coming in by air, are you saying that won't happen in other parts of the UK?

Why do you think this

The other countries of the UK deserve their independence, to make the decisions that suit them - as do the people in England.

Englands rules were always different to Wales's

He's not done a good job communicating that.

Speech to the NATION

www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pm-address-to-the-nation-on-coronavirus-23-march-2020

I wasn’t confused at all! I’m in Scotland, I follow Nicola Sturgeon. What Boris said on Sunday was for England only. Wales, Scotland, NI are not easing restrictions at the moment.

England has always been a separate country.

The cynic in me thinks that they like to be different for difference' sake and paint BJ as reckless.

It's not just us that think England is being reckless, see what the rest of Europe thinks of it all.

I wasn’t confused at all! I’m in Scotland, I follow Nicola Sturgeon

Do you think people living in England are aware that what he said was just about England?