To refuse to have a corona vaccine?

[EasyPleasey]

A lot of people seem to be waiting for a corona vaccine. However I just dont trust any vaccine 'rushed' out, especially after all the mistakes made so far in this crisis. I would rather catch the actual virus and take my chances, as for most people it is a mild illness but who knows what the vaccine may do.

I know quite a few other people who say they will refuse any vaccine for this. I have had all the other vaccines, as have my children.

AIBU?

[LockedInMadness]

Of course it'll be rushed through. These things take years to trial on animals then more years on humans.

I'm with you, op. I'd rather take my chance with the real thing!until such a time as a vaccine has been tested properly.

[Wolfgirrl]

@EasyPleasey

So you have no evidence it will be rushed, you are listening to rumours rather than medical advice?

[Proppedupinbed]

Was it the swine flu vaccine that was rushed out and now there are compensation cases being sorted out for nurses who were forced to have it?

I am a science teacher. IMHO, there is a big difference between an "anti-vaxxer" and someone is cautious about a vaccine that has been brought out in months as opposed to years.

I agree with the op, if I can wait I will wait for both me and my kids.

Side note: Trust this government and after they have left the EU? No.

[EasyPleasey]

@countbackfromten I remember the thalidomide children at school, I trust that drug and vaccine testing is much better since then but never perfect.

[countbackfromten]

If you want to read an actual proper source on vaccinations and their safety this is a great place to start vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/

[countbackfromten]

Thalidomide isn’t a vaccination

[Psainsta]

YANBU. Most people I know have actually said similar.
Also just because you say no to one vaccine, that doesn’t make you an ‘anti vaxxer’, it means you’ve said no to one particular vaccine for whatever reason you have.

[EasyPleasey]

@countbackfromten it was approved for medical use.

[lunar1]

Will people refusing the vaccine be kept away from those too vulnerable to be able to have it? Will our NHS still be expected to risk themselves for people who refuse the vaccine?

[iVampire]

His doctor has admitted that it was rushed out and there have been some long term permanent affects on people

The problematic swine flu vaccine was the one from the 1976 outbreak. There have been considerable lessons learned in the last 40 years

[Proppedupinbed]

Any vaccination will be tested rigorously before it is widely launched, trials are currently ongoing.

You can't fast forward time. Side effects can take years to show up. They is why vaccines normally - or should - take years to assess their safety.

[lockdownstress]

Great. More vaccines for sensible people. Go for it.

[countbackfromten]

This vaccination isn’t being rushed, it is being rapidly developed and tested because of the pandemic. Same as the Ebola vaccination was rapidly developed and tested. The research is being done by some of the most highly regarded institutions in the world and the scientific studies are being conducted as per the studies into any vaccination.

There is no conspiracy. There is no rushing. There is a well designed scientific method being followed by experts in their field and I trust them implicitly.

[Osirus]

I will definitely be getting mine, even if I have to pay for it. I think they’ll be a long delay before the general, healthy and young members of the population get one though. Demand will be absolutely astronomical.

[Wolfgirrl]

Saw this and thought very apt for the thread:

Professor Chris Whitty is a Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians.
He is a Fellow of the Faculty of Public Health.
He is a Fellow of the Academy of Medical Sciences.
He is Chief Scientific Advisor at the Department of Health and Social Care.
He is head of the National Institute for Health Research.
He is a practicing NHS Consultant at University College London Hospitals.
He is a practicing NHS Consultant at the Hospital for Tropical Diseases.
He is a Professor of Physic at Gresham College.

He is also Chief Medical Officer for England and the Chief Medical Advisor to the Government.

Sir Patric Vallance is a Bachelor of Science, a Bachelor of Medicine, and a Bachelor of Surgery. He has spent decades in medical research, as well as teaching at several Medical School.
He has been Registrar of the Academy of Medical Sciences.
He is a Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians.
He is a Fellow of the Royal Society.
He is a Fellow of the Academy of Medical Sciences.

He is also Chief Scientific Officer to the Government.

How appalling that these under qualified chancers have been giving lockdown release advice to the Government, without consulting “experts” such as Keir Starmer, Nicola Sturgeon, Piers Morgan, Laura Kunesberk and Karen on Facebook. 🤔

[Proppedupinbed]

Swine flu vaccine given out in 2009. Nurses dying for narcolepsy.

www.buzzfeed.com/shaunlintern/these-nhs-staff-were-told-the-swine-flu-vaccine-was-safe

[Savingshoes]

Bit like thalidomide really, everyone raved it was the miracle drug but nope.
The pill has got better with lots of changes, initially high risk in blood clots etc.

[LockedInMadness]

Great. More vaccines for sensible people

Or Sheeple one might say. Do you never question anything, ever?

You can't fast forward time. Side effects can take years to show up. They is why vaccines normally - or should - take years to assess their safety.

Exactly this ^

[Proppedupinbed]

*Suing not dying.

[Echo08]

I am with you OP and i have asthma too but i too would be suspicious of a rushed out vaccine.I am supposed to have the flu jab but don't has had a bad reaction .Interestingly at work a few days ago we were talking about it everyone also felt the same .

[Penelopepenny96]

Great. More vaccines for sensible people
I think this is a bit unfair
I’m a nurse and actually a lot of colleagues have said to me that they wouldn’t want the vaccine until a few years had passed and data had been collected from the general population about side effects.
I’m undecided at the moment but you’re not the standing authority on who is sensible for their medical choices. We all have choices we can make about our health and just because you would take the vaccine, it doesn’t mean anything about the OP or others

[countbackfromten]

And currently you are worrying for nothing because we don’t yet know if an effective vaccine for this virus can be produced!! There may be no vaccine at the end of the studies being conducted. That is why studies are done, to see if it would work but there is a significant chance it won’t and anyone involved in such work knows this.

[AmeliaE]

Thalidomide was first sold in the 50s. I'd like to think that medical protocols have improved a bit since then. It is still being prescribed.

All medications have side effects. Including paracetamol. For instance, contraceptive pills can cause blood cloths.

[CovidCrofter]

I'm on the trial, so there's a 50% chance I've had it already.....shrugs

[Rubywhox]

I would turn the vaccine down as it would be too new for me to be comfortable about having it.