Will Devon & Cornwall be ok to go to in July?

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We are in a real dilemma.. We have to pay the balance on our holiday in the next couple of weeks which is about another £800 on top of the £400 deposit already paid.

We've gone for a self catering holiday flat on the Devon / Cornwall border for last week of June /
first week in July.

Don't really want to go if the touristy places we'd usually go to aren't open but our holiday company are only offering a reschedule so will lose our money if we cancel. We have a family wedding next year (hopefully) so we don't want to rebook.

We were pretty sure we'd still be in lockdown and be able to get a refund but now that the new rules are in place, I don't know if we are or aren't allowed to go.

AIBU to think we should be able to get our deposit back?

We've transferred our UK July holiday to next year. Didn't mind at all.

Still got late September in the Lakes booked so will just wait and see what holiday company advise. If we have to change dates I will. I just would have really wanted a change of scenery by end of September😂

@ITonyah She said central London. Heathrow isn't central London

I said London. That poster then tried to wriggle out by changing it to central London. Central London was never the discussion.

Does the train still slow down to cross over the Brunel? I think it’s wonderful, if a little ugly.

This preparation is also happening in Cornwall @TatianaBis.

@OrangeSamphire I know! Attitudes on this thread notwithstanding.

I don't see why it's ridiculous when you have said that "Cornwall" is unwelcoming to tourists rather than there are a few random twats in Cornwall who like to provoke a reaction by being rude to tourists.

Like Jeffersona who has explicitly said Cornwall doesn’t want tourists?

Thanks Toller girl. Big shout out to our colleagues at Treliske!!

DH home early from the ITU last two days. Huge reduction in numbers, hope you’re finding the same.

It does @Daffodil101. Just the right speed for boat spotting to see who's docked down river!

Ooooh. I love that you know this. It’s the sort of random thing I notice, file away and chuckle at.

To be fair, I think because public figures who represent the tourist trade have also spoken up to say 'Cornwall is closed', it's an easy leap to get to the conclusion that Cornwall doesn't want tourists.

When the actual fact is people can't come at the moment anyway. And we just have to hope that government releases lockdown sensibly, with tourist destinations in mind, knowing that a sudden influx into places where Covid rates have been low (and NHS resources are the most sparse per head of the population) could be devastating.

okycoky I'm sure some people will be petty enough to file away rude comments on Mumsnet to revisit when it comes to deciding their holiday destination, but not enough to influence the trajectory of the regional tourist economy...
I'm not offended if people don't like Cornwall or Cornish people, it's totally your choice to visit places you prefer.
But to simply choose not to go because of internet comments, seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Devon and Cornwall aren't covering themselves in glory right now. Fine to say right now we are closed, but there are ways and ways of putting people off. You're a tourist area ffs. If you put out the messages that outsiders are unwelcome for the foreseeable future (and we'll make sure you know it), then people will go elsewhere for the foreseeable future also. Talk about shooting yourselves in the foot!

Yes I agree. People have panicked a lot, people are scared. They don’t always think straight or beyond the here and now.

I was on a thread like this a couple of weeks ago, somebody asking the same. Somebody cane along speaking in the present tense, saying the ‘car parks are closed.’ It was very hard to convince people that you knew and understood this, that you weren’t planning on arriving that day, just musing about future possibilities.

I’ve been pretty stunned by some of the attitudes I’ve read on MN recently, it seems people in Cornwall don’t want tourists and Teachers never want to go back. I know that neither is true. I need to stop reading (and order a new beach tent😉)

@Daffodil101 - DP works in Cardiology so not nearly as Frontline as you and your DH. He's actually been on reduced hours because so many other procedures have been cancelled and has said he feels a bit of a fraud knowing how hard many others have had it. He went to have a bath when our DDs wanted to clap for him on Thursday!!!! I have reassured him that he is still doing his job and we haven't been within 2 m of each other for the last 12 weeks as I'm on the shielding list. It's going to be very strange when we can be close again - not sure gloves and masks immediately shout intimacy do they? (Or maybe that's another thread!!!!

We’ve got a camping hol booked in Cornwall in mid June. Pretty certain we won’t be going. Even if we could I can’t imagine how unwelcoming the locals will be. Quite right too. I think we can all forget our hols this year and shouldn’t be thinking of leaving our home towns. I imagine the infrastructure in Devon and Cornwall is not equipped to handle an influx of Covid. Stay home people.

Ha! I totally relate to this, Toller.

My DH’s first covid shift was on a Thursday night, so he missed the clapping. Kids were amazed by the clapping, he went up in their estimation one hundredfold.

On his return in the morning (he isn’t usually resident on call, hence this was something of a novelty to them), they’d made a ‘Daddy you are a Hero’ banner. In fact he had enjoyed a full nights sleep, so came in with a weeks shopping from Tesco instead.

That flattened things a bit!

@Ihaventgottimeforthis - Thank-you for calling me petty. Anyway, moving swiftly on - I am not sure where in my post I said I didn't like Cornwall or Cornish people. I have many good friends there - Cornish born and bred. On the whole, a beautiful place and lovely people.

I just don't like ignorant posts from people who laugh at the prospect of taking my money off me whilst harbouring not-so-secret desires to torch my car. That kind of attitude is shameful and should be called out.

@NoClarification
I'm from Cornwall. We have 1 main hospital down here capable of dealing with covid patients- yes just 1!
We are a tourist area yes, but we would rather our residents didn't die so you get to lie on the beach for a week.
We are pleading with the rest of the uk to understand the damage an influx will have on our nhs down here.
Of course we want tourism but people with your attitude are the ones that'll get people killed!

This may be completely wrong, but I wonder if Cornwall has actually benefitted so far from having so many second home owners. I know people who have a second home there and have not been since before lockdown and won't be going for the foreseeable. Another will not be going to second home as shielding. Presumably a lot of the houses have been empty and having a lower population has been a help.

My mum hasn’t witnessed the clapping at all - she’s either at work or in her house which has no neighbours within earshot!

I live in the Lakes (so not Cornwall) but the attitude of the local sounds the same.There has been some awful comments on Facebook. I would not blame tourists for never coming back. It really annoys me because they don't "own" the countryside, just their house, and it just smacks of very "me, me, me".

“ It was very hard to convince people that you knew and understood this, that you weren’t planning on arriving that day, just musing about future possibilities”

This is what I was getting at

Reschedule for September maybe?

As long as you haven’t got kids who would be school then. A small detail😊

We was booked for late august . We've rebooked for next year . I don't see the point in going anywhere . It won't be the holiday to thought it would be .

Interesting point, ink paper. Perhaps true, yes.