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To think this is actually really entitled parenting?

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GlummyMcGlummerson · 12/05/2020 14:38

Seen this post from several people this morning outraged at the walking couple

www.facebook.com/672995864/posts/10158029908925865/?d=n

Now I am in no way condoning the disgusting language of the man in question. But the dad showed such an entitled attitude. He didn't tell his DD to slow down even when she was on the heels of the couple. She could have hurt them if they'd been elderley or disabled, and you can't tell from behind. He didn't practice social distancing - even if the couple had moved they'd have been way less than 2m apart from them, unless they threw themselves into a bush. And when his DD fell off the bike, rather than comfort her he spent the time arguing with and blaming the couple while she cried on the floor.

I've taken my kids to paths like this during lockdown and have said if someone is walking ahead we have to walk behind them with the bikes until we can pass them safely or the paths get wider. This is while teaching them to cycle, and just because they have momentum it doesn't mean they shouldn't stop - surely that's part of learning to cycle, knowing when to judge the safety of themselves and others?

I suppose i also hate this trend of social media vigilantism whereby people want to share faces of those who've slighted them, usually with a huge amount of bias and very little context. And the general public seem to lap it up! I am hard of hearing and I hate cyclists coming up behind me when I walk as unless they bellow "excuse me" I simply will not hear them. I wouldn't be pleased if a child bashed into me and then I got yelled at by the parent for not having good hearing and eyes in the back of my head.

OP posts:
CJSmith2019 · 12/05/2020 18:49

"EXCUSE ME! You there! Stand in that patch of nettles while my perfect Princess wobbles past you, runs over your dog's feet, and I follow her with about six inches between your unmasked faces and my own smug one".

Exactly. And unfortunately there are quite a few people who think like that.

WiddlinDiddlin · 12/05/2020 18:49

Now I've actually seen the video...

At no point does it look like the couple have heard him or realised he is talking to them.

There is nowhere for them to go to allow for social distancing anyway.

At no point do they turn and see the kid before she aims for the gap between them and crashes into them.

The guy does not look like he hurls abuse, he looks like hes pretty pissed off someones sent their kid ahead to crash into them when there is no space, and annoyed at being bollocked by the childs parent, so, as he walks off he kicks the kids bike out of his way.

Parent entirely at fault - is the other guy an arse, maybe he is maybe he isn't, it isn't really relevant because if the parent had exercised common sense and consideration for others, the incident would not have occurred.

HuggedTheRedwoods · 12/05/2020 18:51

Completely the parents fault. Just hope the mother reads more than the comments from her hun mates.

I8toys · 12/05/2020 18:53

He's a disgrace. Poor kid

I8toys · 12/05/2020 18:53

I mean the dad!

VivienScott · 12/05/2020 19:01

A lot of it round here. Parents out with kids on bikes who go faster than they’re capable of going and nearly run into people. Parents aren’t controlling kids, because kids are “entitled” to use the space as well, kids run into people and parents tell the actual victims they should watch out.
There’s some proper parenting twattery about at the moment.

Justine1972 · 12/05/2020 19:03

Reported them for what? Going for a walk?
They did nothing wrong. They went for a walk and a man with his child allowed her to ride straight into them. The dad then completely ignored his child whilst she was crying after falling off her bike but arguing with the man who did nothing wrong Confused

juglover2008 · 12/05/2020 19:07

It's looks like the parents have removed the clip from Facebook. Problerly dont like all the negative comments.

bottlenose301 · 12/05/2020 19:11

I agree the person filming is out of order and clearly spoiling for an argument. As they approach the couple the girl hesitates and looks at her dad who advises her to carry on. The skeptic in me knew what he was doing and what would happen and that's why he encouraged her to carry on and kept fillming.

He did say excuse me a few times but I don't think they heard. I agree with others though, at the point he first asked them to move there really wasn't anywhere to go for them.

The man obviously reacted angrily to a camera in his face which I don't blame.

The only think I don't agree with or condone is when he kicked the bike hard. That belongs to the little girl and she's only 6, she can't be blamed for any of this.

laidbacklife · 12/05/2020 19:17

Little girl should have stopped but if you watch the full video the guy does turn around, twice, so he is fully aware of the little girl approaching.
If a child accidentally rode into me and fell off my first reaction would be concern and to check if the child was hurt. At that age it is forgivable that she didn’t stop. Children panic when they’re not fully in control, plus they make spatial misjudgments. She is very young and she’ll learn. We all had accidents learning to ride a bike.
This guy’s reaction tells you everything you need to know about him. No concern for the child, offensive and abusive language, and what kind of vile and odious person kicks a child’s bike?!

Sceptre86 · 12/05/2020 19:19

I have no sympathy for the dog walkers. For people who were asking where they could go, why couldn't they walk single file and then the child would have been able to get past? If they didn't hear her fair enough but they could have stopped to help her when she fell over and was crying. Fear of the pandemic should not get in the way of helping a child and if they were in any way extra vulnerable and didn't want to help her up they shouldn't have been out. It doesn't take two people to walk one dog!

The little girls dad should have intervened much earlier and rather than argue his first point of call should have been hugging and comforting his child, checking her over for scrapes etc. His parenting was entitled.

The dog walkers were rude and ignorant, kicking a child's bike was low as was ignoring an upset child.

The lesson to be learnt is that the child should maybe be practicing in her own garden or at the front of her house and the parent should be alongside her to intervene if necessary.

OneEndStreet · 12/05/2020 19:21

The Dad probably should have intervened sooner to prevent the fall but the couple were arseholes...

Since when was it the duty of the person in front to concentrate on what is happening behind them?

The father sounds awful. And yes, he should have intervened a lot earlier - probably around the time he was teaching her how to control her bicycle, which includes learning how to stop!!

Thankfully it was pedestrians she walloped into; if that had been a kerbside she was unable to stop at would her father got arsey with a car driver?

I'm so relieved my grandchildren don't have such obnoxious parents!! I would be embarrassed if my son ignored his upset child to have a go at pedestrians who had right of way/passage and had done nothing wrong prior to the father's attitude!!

lyralalala · 12/05/2020 19:23

If they didn't hear her fair enough but they could have stopped to help her when she fell over and was crying. Fear of the pandemic should not get in the way of helping a child and if they were in any way extra vulnerable and didn't want to help her up they shouldn't have been out. It doesn't take two people to walk one dog!

Why should they have helped her when her father was there?

He should have stopped filming the people he was trying to set up and focussed on his child

RonSwansonIsBuff · 12/05/2020 19:25

If I were that couple I'd be speaking to a solicitor about that completely twisted daily mail article/heading too.

0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h · 12/05/2020 19:28

Kicking the bike of a crying child who may be hurt though....

I don't think they should have had to move but I have no sympathy. Who can look at a crying child and not say "Are you alright?". Instead he kicked her bike. That's not even legal but it's also just mean.

Boogiewoogietoo · 12/05/2020 19:35

I guess the couple saw the dad wasn’t remotely concerned his daughter was hurt so weren’t overly worried either.

Can’t believe the dad didn’t check his daughter was ok and kept filming.

OneEndStreet · 12/05/2020 19:38

but they could have stopped to help her when she fell over and was crying I would have thought that was the father's task, not the job of people who were walking with right of passage?

Fear of the pandemic should not get in the way of helping a child

Who assumed they were fearful of catching coronavirus from the child? Or did I miss something?

and if they were in any way extra vulnerable... and didn't want to help her up they shouldn't have been out.

What a load of rubbish. Should I not go out alone because I am, as you phrase it, extra vulnerable? If you approach me from behind, at a faster speed than I am walking, would you instinctively know I am extra vulnerable? It works both ways, how would I know the person approaching faster than I can walk is an 'extra vulnerable' child? You can't assume the person you are behind knows you are there.

As for the bit I struck through, do you genuinely believe that we should only go out if we want to help other people's children?

It doesn't take two people to walk one dog! now you are just being very silly, aren't you?

MorganKitten · 12/05/2020 19:40

I like how the video is titled about her being pushed off the bike, no pushing happened apart from her trying to barge past.
She didn’t have her feet on the peddles several times, he should be walking alongside her if she’s learning.
Saying they ignored her... what was he doing while she was crying on the floor?

MorganKitten · 12/05/2020 19:43

Also I have been standing at a bus stop and had a two children from the same fa ily smash into the back of my leg, one on a scooter one on a bike, both under 5. The dad shouted at me saying I should have moved, how when I can’t see your child from behind me?
If your child can’t ride what they are on you need to support and help them.

FudgeBrownie2019 · 12/05/2020 19:45

The walkers had me on their side til they behaved like arseholes swearing and kicking a child's bike.

The Dad was wrong not to tell his child to get off and walk around them but who in the world kicks a child's bike? A fucking over-entitled manbaby, that's who. The walkers are arseholes, too.

Seetheprettysnowdrops · 12/05/2020 19:47

I'm an arse hole

I would have had a go at the entitled father too

I wouldn't have kicked the bike though.

I agree with Ron if I were that couple I'd be taking legal action

DianaT1969 · 12/05/2020 19:48

Her dad is in the wrong. It's easier to tell your daughter to stop than to shout 'jump into the bushes now!' to two strangers ahead.

0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h · 12/05/2020 19:49

boogie. Right. So you see a dad who doesn't give a shit and that gives you license to ignore simple human kindness and aggressively damage a child's possession? Lovely.

Seetheprettysnowdrops · 12/05/2020 19:53

Ovc.... pretty sure it wasn't damaged.

It was a handbags at dawn kick

0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h · 12/05/2020 20:00

see No it was a nasty kick and it could easily be scratched.

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