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To think this is actually really entitled parenting?

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GlummyMcGlummerson · 12/05/2020 14:38

Seen this post from several people this morning outraged at the walking couple

www.facebook.com/672995864/posts/10158029908925865/?d=n

Now I am in no way condoning the disgusting language of the man in question. But the dad showed such an entitled attitude. He didn't tell his DD to slow down even when she was on the heels of the couple. She could have hurt them if they'd been elderley or disabled, and you can't tell from behind. He didn't practice social distancing - even if the couple had moved they'd have been way less than 2m apart from them, unless they threw themselves into a bush. And when his DD fell off the bike, rather than comfort her he spent the time arguing with and blaming the couple while she cried on the floor.

I've taken my kids to paths like this during lockdown and have said if someone is walking ahead we have to walk behind them with the bikes until we can pass them safely or the paths get wider. This is while teaching them to cycle, and just because they have momentum it doesn't mean they shouldn't stop - surely that's part of learning to cycle, knowing when to judge the safety of themselves and others?

I suppose i also hate this trend of social media vigilantism whereby people want to share faces of those who've slighted them, usually with a huge amount of bias and very little context. And the general public seem to lap it up! I am hard of hearing and I hate cyclists coming up behind me when I walk as unless they bellow "excuse me" I simply will not hear them. I wouldn't be pleased if a child bashed into me and then I got yelled at by the parent for not having good hearing and eyes in the back of my head.

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Seetheprettysnowdrops · 12/05/2020 20:03

Behave Grin

LoseLooseLucy · 12/05/2020 20:06

Completely entitled parenting. The only thing I saw wrong was the little kick to the bike.

44PumpLane · 12/05/2020 20:12

Totally agree with you OP

Orangecake123 · 12/05/2020 20:13

I saw the clip and also agree.

The girl should have slowed down.

TutorWoes · 12/05/2020 20:18

The parent of the child on the bike should have been telling her to stop, for her own safety and for the sake of the walking couple. He allowed the situation to happen. It must have been a shock for the couple to have her crash into them and then have a phone thrust in their faces. I bet the parent is a massive attention seeker and goady fucker in his day to day life. Just wants to get in the papers and on TV

TutorWoes · 12/05/2020 20:29

I think it's appalling that the couple walking along in front were just minding their own business and now their faces have been plastered all over the internet. What if they've got mental health issues and this really affects them?

purpleme12 · 12/05/2020 20:31

Yes I hate the whole someone does something wrong or even if they've done something wrong and had no altercation people player it over Facebook I hate it cos people could basically plaster your face over Facebook without you knowing at all

lotusbell · 12/05/2020 20:41

Please stop saying where were the couple supposed to go? If they know the area, they'll have to move possibly more than once for other walkers, joggers and maybe cyclists. I agree shouting 'excuse me' is a request and they don't have to, but common courtesy says you move out of the way, it's a countryside law practically!

In the current crisis, more people are using our natural spaces so you make allowances for other people using an area you may consider your regular spot, who may not usually use them. No one type of person owns the area.
My dad loves walking and refuses to go at the weekend as it's too busy and overcrowded, he's retired so can do this during the week - in normal times. Now of course, people are working from home, kids are off school so more people are out and out, getting exercise and fresh air. We've all got to adjust and make allowances.

The path was always going to be too narrow to 'overtake' someone else, regardless of whether it's another walker or a cyclist. Honestly, it is no real hardship to step off an official path and press your body into some bushes to let someone pass. Have you never brushed past an overhanging or overgrown branch while out walking? If not you must stick yo places which are immaculately groomed and kept clear at all times.
It's ridiculous to suggest they would be out of order asking them to move aside, it's hardly making them detour down an unbeaten path leading to a jungle!
If you can't be doing with getting touched by a tree or bush, why are you even out in the countryside?

AwrightDoreenTakeAFuckinDayOff · 12/05/2020 20:43

Entitled parenting.

Arsehole father.

#teamcouple

GrimmsFairytales · 12/05/2020 20:45

The path was always going to be too narrow to 'overtake' someone else, regardless of whether it's another walker or a cyclist.

Then why did the dad encourage the daughter to keep gong and try to do so? Especially given the current 2m advice.

funinthesun19 · 12/05/2020 20:48

It’s pathetic the way people have to try and shame people all over social media for likes and reactions like “Oh my gawwwwwwd!Angry.”

It should be illegal to plaster on social media videos and photos of strangers in order to shame them.

I hope the parents feel like tits now.

Jojobar · 12/05/2020 20:51

In the video it looks like theres a clearing ahead, dad should have kept child back til they reached that point where there was room to overtake and she could have safely done so.

We have woods in a local country park. Some of the paths are wide enough to pass others are not. On the narrow ones you remain a safe distance behind someone until it widens out.

Seetheprettysnowdrops · 12/05/2020 20:55

It's disgusting on Facebook and Twitter with some "hard" men wanting to know who the man is so they can sort him out.

lotusbell · 12/05/2020 20:59

@GrimmsFairytales, agreed. The father is a dick! I meant it's always going to be too narrow for someone to overtake and have much room either side, especially with the 2m rule but in general, asking someone to move out of the way is perfectly fine. If you look at this still from the video, you can see that both the man and the woman could've stepped to the side and let her through. Ok, it's not much room, and possibly not enough to socially distance. He should've held back and waited. But my grievance is with people saying it's unfair to make them stand in a bush to let someone past. It's just what you do if you need to.

lotusbell · 12/05/2020 21:00

Plenty of room here

lotusbell · 12/05/2020 21:05

As someone said earlier, none of the adults come out of this looking great.

HaddawayAndShite · 12/05/2020 21:07

I understand everyone is terrified of coming near each other at the moment, but that is the risk you take when you go to places like this on bike or feet. What if they were coming in the opposite direction, where would the couple who can’t possible step to the side do then? What happens when a walker comes in the opposite direction?

Parent definitely should have called his child to stop while he asked them to move, but I get they wouldn’t move when asked anyway. What kind of human kicks a child’s bike after she’s just fallen off.

GrimmsFairytales · 12/05/2020 21:07

But my grievance is with people saying it's unfair to make them stand in a bush to let someone past. It's just what you do if you need to.

But there was no need for the couple to step to the side. If the path is too narrow for you to pass someone in front of you, then you wait until there's space to do so. Yes it might be annoying to have to wait, but a little bit of patience from the father could have prevented the incident from occurring.

AwrightDoreenTakeAFuckinDayOff · 12/05/2020 21:08

I see where you are with that lotus

Could you please highlight where the 2n social distancing is?

AwrightDoreenTakeAFuckinDayOff · 12/05/2020 21:09

2m.

And the eyes in the back of the couple’s heads please?

Jojobar · 12/05/2020 21:10

Re people coming in the opposite direction, on paths near us if that happens on a narrow stretch one of you either waits by the wider area if you see them ahead, to allow them to pass or occasionally I've had to turn round and retrace my steps to the wider area if I'd not seen them coming.

MissyPG · 12/05/2020 21:10

My little girl (4yo) has just learnt to ride her bike. I absolutely have recorded her cycling to proudly send to grandparents and the like.

However, I don’t record her riding towards a couple and getting far too close. Indeed, even at 4 my LG knows to stay away from people, not to overtake until I’m with her etc. If she does even think about getting too far ahead, or if I see people coming I tell her to stop until I get to her.

Why was the parent filming and not asking her to stop? Why didn’t he stop filming to take control of the situation?

The couple were rude not to move and to have kicked the bike but WTAF was the parent on? He should have asked the LG to stop and then if necessary passed the couple together.

VerticalHorizon · 12/05/2020 21:11

But my grievance is with people saying it's unfair to make them stand in a bush to let someone past. It's just what you do if you need to

Eh? It's a path, not a bush standing area. What you NEED to do is not encourage your child to ride a bike into people, and not assume 'Scuse me, scuse me' is a universal licence for everybody to change THEIR behaviour just to accommodate you and your lousy video bollocks.

The fact that bushes exist there suggests no fooker usually stands there. That's a bit of a clue.

lotusbell · 12/05/2020 21:13

I'm not saying it would be an adequate amount of distance but it would be enough distance to let someone pass if they need to. What about paths which never widen and are narrow all along, someone has to move aside at one point.
I'm not sure the reason for the couple not moving are because it's not enough distance, but if it was they could've shouted back "just hold on til we get to a wider bit!'
I just find it odd that so many say "where do you want them to move to, the bushes?" As if that's not a better option!

GrimmsFairytales · 12/05/2020 21:21

What about paths which never widen and are narrow all along, someone has to move aside at one point.

No path lasts forever. If there's not a single spot on the whole path which allows a safer passing point, then you wait until the path ends, especially given the current situation. You certainly don't shout excuse me and encourage your daughter to push her way past.

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