To think this is actually really entitled parenting?

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Seen this post from several people this morning outraged at the walking couple

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Now I am in no way condoning the disgusting language of the man in question. But the dad showed such an entitled attitude. He didn't tell his DD to slow down even when she was on the heels of the couple. She could have hurt them if they'd been elderley or disabled, and you can't tell from behind. He didn't practice social distancing - even if the couple had moved they'd have been way less than 2m apart from them, unless they threw themselves into a bush. And when his DD fell off the bike, rather than comfort her he spent the time arguing with and blaming the couple while she cried on the floor.

I've taken my kids to paths like this during lockdown and have said if someone is walking ahead we have to walk behind them with the bikes until we can pass them safely or the paths get wider. This is while teaching them to cycle, and just because they have momentum it doesn't mean they shouldn't stop - surely that's part of learning to cycle, knowing when to judge the safety of themselves and others?

I suppose i also hate this trend of social media vigilantism whereby people want to share faces of those who've slighted them, usually with a huge amount of bias and very little context. And the general public seem to lap it up! I am hard of hearing and I hate cyclists coming up behind me when I walk as unless they bellow "excuse me" I simply will not hear them. I wouldn't be pleased if a child bashed into me and then I got yelled at by the parent for not having good hearing and eyes in the back of my head.

I’ve watched the video again to make sure, and the dad does not thank the other walker standing aside for them, letting them pass earlier in the video.

It’s difficult to tell from the video whether the couple did indeed look behind them and see the girl on her bike, as the FB post describes.

IMO the dad handled this situation totally wrong. As PP have said, he should have instructed DD to dismount and walk with her bike until they could safely pass the walkers. Failing that, and had the crash still have happened, he should have apologised to the walkers for having misjudged the situation. I don’t think it matters who was in the “wrong” or “right” - if your kid crashes into somebody on their bike, you apologise - and ask if they’re okay - usually while scooping your kid up off the floor and making sure they’re also okay!!

No they should have moved out of the way! Ignorant c*s! They clearly aren't disabled or hard of hearing

You have no idea if they are hard of hearing or not and how on earth have you decided that they are not disabled? Have you never heard of invisible disabilities?

I wouldn't have heard her as I am a little hard of hearing and if I was talking to my DH I would have had no idea she was behind me.

It's a pity the child's father cared more about videoing the collision than about grabbing his daughter to make sure she was safe.

Your language says as much about you as his actions said about him.

Ha, the FB post has been taken down, probably realise what twats they've been.

They probably didn't like the fact that once others started to report on it they couldn't control the negative comments, like they had been on FB.

Been Taken down! 😆 Makes me laugh when they have to realise they're in the wrong

Goldenbear children have the same rights as everyone else - not greater, not lesser, just that parents are responsible instead of them being responsible for themselves.

A child is entitled to do anything an adult is entitled to do, within the boundaries set by the law and good sense for and awareness of the child's abilities, for which the parent is responsible.

Children don't naturally ride thier bikes into pedestrians, it isn't natural childlike behaviour - she did it because her father egged her on.

Apart from anything else the father put his child at risk of injury as she was out of control and hit an obstacle (another person). The same way your child on their scooter might have been injured if he or she had hit the old lady, and the old lady would have been injured too.

I don't understand why you think children should be entitled to potentially hurt other people or themselves? It's not a lack of rights or dislike of children to say they have the same rights as everyone else, no more, no less except where safety and child protection dictates (alcohol, adult rated entertainment, travelling in and driving cars etc etc).

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"EXCUSE ME! You there! Stand in that patch of nettles while my perfect Princess wobbles past you, runs over your dog's feet, and I follow her with about six inches between your unmasked faces and my own smug one".

YANBU. What an entitled arse!

Why was this on USA Today Post?!

Post has gone. I very much doubt there will be an, “I’m sorry. I was wrong” post put up.

Guessing there was some truths posted in comments after the newspaper report 😂😂😂

The Daily Mail are heading up the article saying the girl was knocked off her bike.

It's not about the 'law' and parental responsibility, I suppose my angle is concerned with 'tolerance' and I don't think there is much for children. Children have to learn and sometimes this is through discovery rather than being taught about things.

It wasn’t a suitable path for cycling, way too narrow. I’d have never let my dc ride on a narrow walking path like that and if I had would have made them dismount if there was anybody in front. The couple were there first you don’t barge cars out of the way when in front. Just awful. Say they’d been elderly, they looked genuinely surprised when they saw her and if they hadn’t been were under no obligation to move. I’d have been livid if my face had been sold to the Daily Mail too.

Didn’t like the way the dad ignored his crying child to have a barney either.

The irony is if left to her own devices the girl would probably have tried to stop.

Also why should anyone have to tolerate a twat man encouraging his child to ride her bike into you?

The couple were rude they could of turned around I could hear her little bell so could they and he kicked her bike not a very nice man by all accounts shame she didn't take his knee cap off

How on earth do you know they could hear her? I wouldn't have heard, but even if they had, you don't just barge into people. It's completely the dad's fault. The other fella was an arse for kicking the bike but unless you were there, which I assume you weren't, you just can't say they heard anything at all.

No they should have moved out of the way! Ignorant c*s! They clearly aren't disabled or hard of hearing

How on earth can you say the clearly are not hard of hearing? I can't hear people talking to me, or noises from behind but I can have a face to face conversation no problem.

The Daily Mail are heading up the article saying the girl was knocked off her bike.

FFS. Twisting it to make it look worse than it was.
This man has his face plastered all over Facebook and the media now. Some thickos might attack him

I'm quietly sniggering at the cyclists on this thread who are complaining that the walkers didn't get into single file or move out of the way of the cyclists. Just like threads where car drivers make the same complaints about cyclists...😂😂

Goldenbear this has nothing to do with learning through discovery - her father told her to keep going into/ through the people in front of her. If her father had left her to make her own decision there is no way on earth a 6 year old would have chosen to crash into adults she didn't know, it's completely counter intuitive to a child.

A parent is responsible for selecting a safe environment for their child to learn through discovery, not for overriding the child's natural instincts and telling them to barge and push and crash through pedestrians.

The sequence in the video is nothing to do with tolerance of children and children learning anything. It's about two men willy waving and a child being used to prove some kind of point. The child is, however, being tught to be an entitled, pushy person. Hopefully the lesson will have been counterproductive and she won't have learnt to push but to hold back because the consequences of the type of behaviour her father was instructing her to engage in are unpleasant.

I'm amazed that the dad didn't stop her or apologise. No manners.

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I'll make a mental note that on my next run if I'm behind some people walking I can just mutter 'excuse me' and then barge between them whether they heard me or not.

You've just reminded me that this actually happened to me a couple of years ago. SIL and I were walking along, deep in conversation, when a runner pushed in between us and used her hands and arms to kind of part us, like the Red Sea!

It was so bizarre, particularly as there were about 5m either side of us, but obviously it would have been too much effort to run around us!

Bloke shouldn’t have kicked the bike

Dad was completely in the wrong

The DM can't even get a story right when it's handed to them.
Can we furlough the wanker journo's? Please.

SoupDragon that's always the way with a certain type of cyclist - not all, but a vocal and very visible lycra clad group - they generally argue their right to pick up and maintain maximum speed and not be held up, whilst completely failing to see how hypocritical that makes their point that car drivers should gracefully accept being held up by them for as long as it takes, and should plan their journeys around the possibility of being held up.

Um. This link doesn't work at all for me. Where can I find it?

They have taken it down and its on the DM,

No they should have moved out of the way! Ignorant c*s! They clearly aren't disabled or hard of hearing

How do you know they aren't hard of hearing? DH is partially deaf but most people wouldn't know it. He wouldn't hear a bike bell though and probably not a child's voice as his hearing loss affects tone rather than volume.

I've just watched it & the walker who was being criticised for kicking the bike-looks to me more as if he just shoved it out of the way?

We have cycle paths here & even that doesn't mean that you can keep going regardless!

When I ring my bell it's not to say "move out of the way I'm coming through", but to warn pedestrians that I am there & give them time to decide which side of the path to step!