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To think this is actually really entitled parenting?

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GlummyMcGlummerson · 12/05/2020 14:38

Seen this post from several people this morning outraged at the walking couple

www.facebook.com/672995864/posts/10158029908925865/?d=n

Now I am in no way condoning the disgusting language of the man in question. But the dad showed such an entitled attitude. He didn't tell his DD to slow down even when she was on the heels of the couple. She could have hurt them if they'd been elderley or disabled, and you can't tell from behind. He didn't practice social distancing - even if the couple had moved they'd have been way less than 2m apart from them, unless they threw themselves into a bush. And when his DD fell off the bike, rather than comfort her he spent the time arguing with and blaming the couple while she cried on the floor.

I've taken my kids to paths like this during lockdown and have said if someone is walking ahead we have to walk behind them with the bikes until we can pass them safely or the paths get wider. This is while teaching them to cycle, and just because they have momentum it doesn't mean they shouldn't stop - surely that's part of learning to cycle, knowing when to judge the safety of themselves and others?

I suppose i also hate this trend of social media vigilantism whereby people want to share faces of those who've slighted them, usually with a huge amount of bias and very little context. And the general public seem to lap it up! I am hard of hearing and I hate cyclists coming up behind me when I walk as unless they bellow "excuse me" I simply will not hear them. I wouldn't be pleased if a child bashed into me and then I got yelled at by the parent for not having good hearing and eyes in the back of my head.

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scarbados · 12/05/2020 16:28

maria860 Tue 12-May-20 16:11:51

The couple were rude they could of turned around I could hear her little bell so could they and he kicked her bike not a very nice man by all accounts shame she didn't take his knee cap off

So you know they're not deaf, do you? Even if they'd turned round (and it's could have not could of* ) what did you expect them to do about it? Still wouldn't have been room to move aside for her.

  • I don't normally correct grammar or spelling but in your pig ignorant case, I'll make an exception. And I'll fervently hope you don't have kids if that's how you'd bring them up.
TheFairyCaravan · 12/05/2020 16:29

The father is a complete and utter arse. Why was he wandering along behind his child capturing all this on his phone instead of preventing it? I'd have bollocked DH not uploaded it to Fb ffs.

DH is hard of hearing, he wears a tiny hearing aid that most people can't see. It would be hit and miss if he heard that. If they'd rammed into me it would have really hurt due to my disabilities and I'd have had to have been incredibly restrained not to have sworn or kicked the bike tbh.

AllIMissNowIsTheSea · 12/05/2020 16:29

Goldenbear properly brought up children don't!

Mine were all riding without stabilisers before they were 5, and of course they wobbled and took a few weeks to properly get the hang of the brakes, but they'd have steered into the bushes and crash landed not into other people! Its completely counter intuitive to most children to barge deliberately into adults they don't know! Most children would sooner crash into a tree than a stranger.

That little girl only rode into the adults ahead of her because her father basically told her to and she went against child instinct and followed his order.

RonSwansonIsBuff · 12/05/2020 16:29

There's not accomodating others preferences and then there is allowing your children to literally ride into people on their bike. They are not the same thing.

Allowing your child to ride into people is not acceptable just because they are children. You should be stopping them from doing that, really you should.

0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h · 12/05/2020 16:30

Both men utter plonkers. The father should not have come bearing down on his daughter expecting the walkers to jump into a hedge but they were utterly callous when she did come off, poor kid. As for kicking the bike, that's just low. What kind of example are we seeing setting our children? Disgraceful from everyone.

Gtugccbjb · 12/05/2020 16:30

Yes the Dads a twat.

Terriblehairdontcare · 12/05/2020 16:30

Oh my god.

They all behaved like utter cunts.

The dad DEFINITELY should have stopped his daughter. You could see what was going to happen fgs.

But, the man was a complete dickhead to kick her bike.

SnuggyBuggy · 12/05/2020 16:31

Some places are better for bikes than others. I doubt mine will ever learn to ride a bike unless she expresses a strong interest as we don't really have anywhere suitable nearby.

EL8888 · 12/05/2020 16:33

@RonSwansonIsBuff exactly. Had l done something similar as a child, my parents would have been mortified and apologised profusely. They would have said l was the problem and not 2 random passerby enjoying their walk

AllIMissNowIsTheSea · 12/05/2020 16:33

Goldenbear human beings should avoid crashing into one another. The fact this human being was a child simply means it was her parent's fault. Children don't have more or less rights to crash into other people than adults. They don't have more or less right to do anything which might cause injuries to other human beings. It's just that in the case of children their parents are responsible for ensuring they don't risk injuring themselves or anyone else.

That really shouldn't need saying should it?

Elsiebear90 · 12/05/2020 16:35

They all were idiots if you ask me, the father should have told her to use her breaks and stop once he realised they weren’t going to move. The couple were selfish arseholes for refusing to move aside despite being asked numerous times and then the guy actually kicked the little girls bike while she was crying, terrible and absolutely no excuse.

fascinated · 12/05/2020 16:35

I have to admit I have never thought of someone being deaf as I ring my bell pretty loudly and shout repeatedly usually

Whether they are deaf or not or whether they heard or saw you or not is irrelevant. If they don't move you don't just ride into people.

@RonSwansonIsBuff
If you read my posts I never said I would, I wouldn’t dream of it.

BetsyJameson · 12/05/2020 16:36

Yes definitely entitled parenting. When walking sometimes you don’t always hear someone coming behind you. Also sometime cyclists and runners expect everyone to be able to quickly get out of their way which isn’t always possible if they are unsteady on their feet.

GrimmsFairytales · 12/05/2020 16:39

For those saying they hoped the daily mail picked up on it, they have, and the vast majority of commenters think the father is at fault.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8311013/Six-year-old-girl-knocked-bike-couple-refuse-way-footpath.html#comments

fascinated · 12/05/2020 16:39

I always give way if necessary, but most people surely don’t mind stepping to the side if given plenty of polite warning ?

OhCaptain · 12/05/2020 16:40

The carry on in the comments too! Shaken, traumatised, someone said kicking the bike is assault Grin

That man was awful but the dad is insufferable. And that kid shouldn't have been on a bike she can't stop!

user1495884620 · 12/05/2020 16:40

@NailsNeedDoing It is really amusing me, thinking about the pile on someone would get if they said, I was driving behind this cyclist who wouldn't get out of the way even though I repeatedly beeped my horn, so I drove into them.

Terriblehairdontcare · 12/05/2020 16:41

Even if the dad was stupid/inexperienced and had expected they'd move or his daughter would break. When she crashed into them he should have apologised profusely.

It doesn't really matter that they didn't move, they were using the footpath, it was narrow, the dad had no right to expect they'd just jump out of the way. He's really not doing his daughter any favours.

Still shouldn't have kicked her bike though. Although I can imagine feeling angry if someone rode into me then the parent tried to blame me!

Just two complete toss pot men.

RonSwansonIsBuff · 12/05/2020 16:42

I always give way if necessary, but most people surely don’t mind stepping to the side if given plenty of polite warning ?

Dunno, it depends on whether they heard or not firstly and also the fact we are all supposed to be distancing ourselves from one another may also have a part to play. I don't think the couple would have been wrong to wait until they felt it was safer for them to move aside, especially with the situation right now.

There's no way you could give 2m distance on that path, not without them hopping into the actual bush anyway.

Goldenbear · 12/05/2020 16:42

'properly brought up children' has nothing to do with it. Of course, you tell your child to hold back, be polite but I don't think that couple would've have moved aside even if the father had dismounted and asked to get by. They seemed really angry, angry at children for being children is definitely a thing these days, it's ridiculous! My youngest was scooting down an empty urban rode and I saw a very old lady - late 80's maybe coming around the corner, I immediately told DD to slow down and stop. The old lady told me off and not to stop her as that's how children are and it's natural to play like this.' my very elderly male neighbour talks about children in the same way. Obviously, it's anecdotal but I certainly think there is such an intolerance to natural childish behaviour these days and this makes people behave like the MN in the video, rationalising to himself that he is entitled to kick a young child's bike!

Goldenbear · 12/05/2020 16:42

Road not 'rode'

RonSwansonIsBuff · 12/05/2020 16:43

I was driving behind this cyclist who wouldn't get out of the way even though I repeatedly beeped my horn, so I drove into them

😂😂😂😂

RonSwansonIsBuff · 12/05/2020 16:44

And obviously all you'd have to say in response would be 'well I beeped my horn multiple times'.

Doodar · 12/05/2020 16:46

Ha, the FB post has been taken down, probably realise what twats they've been.

funinthesun19 · 12/05/2020 16:47

I’m normally the first to jump to the parent’s defence in these sorts of situations.

But I saw that video, and I thought just bloody wait! It’s a narrow path! I would have told my child to hold back a bit until we could move past. The couple might not have heard the dad.

I’m in no way condoning the man kicking the girl’s bike, but the parent shouldn’t have let the little girl barge in between the couple.

Both in wrong. Mainly the parent this time, and it takes a lot for me to say that in these scenarios.

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