Stay at home, protect the nhs, save lives

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AIBU to find this slogan annoying especially how it seems to prioritise protecting an organisation. The ‘save lives’ bit seems almost secondary to protecting the NHS. It is also dangerous and probably contributes to people avoiding going for treatment when they should be and thus leading the increase in deaths from other causes.

We shouldn’t be ‘protecting the NHS’ as though it is something sacred. It should be ‘Stay at home, save lives, don’t spread Covid’

The Times reports that patients were discharged from hospitals to create 'capacity' and this policy has had serious repercussions in care homes. The Telegraph earlier reported that many of the patients decanted from hospital to care homes were never tested for Covid. Apparently two million operations have been cancelled. An oncologist states that the number presenting with cancers has fallen from 30,000 to 5,000 per month. There is a catastrophe evolving and it has been created by the government and NHS management.

not all those discharged in the rush to clear bed space were elderly. Among 150 patients moved out of the Queen’s Medical Centre (QMC) in Nottingham was Evie Toombes, 18, who was awaiting intestinal surgery to transform, and very possibly save, her life. Ms Toombes, a talented para showjumper with hopes of becoming a Paralympian, had been admitted weeks before her ileostomy operation, scheduled for March 31, to have her weight raised to a safe level through intravenous feeding. She was told her surgery had been cancelled because it was too high risk in the pandemic and she would be discharged to be cared for at home. “We knew they were telling us, not asking us,” said Ms Toombes’s mother Caroline, 48, from Skegness, Lincolnshire. “It wasn’t a choice. My mind was trying to process fighting for my daughter’s desperate health needs versus the risk of staying. I said I can’t cope with her health needs at home, the consultant looked down and said ‘I know’. We’re invisible in the current situation. Evie is declining by the day and it feels like she is collateral damage........That apparent success came, however, at significant human cost to non-coronavirus patients. Across the country much of the rest of the NHS in effect came to a halt. The Royal College of Surgeons estimates that two million NHS operations have been cancelled. Endoscopy appointments and CT scans were also cancelled as staff were transferred.....One man told Age UK he had received only one food parcel since being discharged and was afraid to leave his home in case he caught the virus. A caller to the Alzheimer’s Society said she felt she was being bullied into accepting her husband’s discharge even though he had a cough and a temperature in addition to his dementia. The family of a 100-year-old man called to say he was being pressured to leave hospital for a care home where they had heard people were dying

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/frail-are-forced-out-to-clear-hospitals-for-coronavirus-patients-says-charity-z3hx95gnr

There are 4000 beds at the London exel nightingale for a start where they could put 4000 of them instead of off loading them to pass on CV19 to other people in the care home.

Thank you @ bovary that article is truly awful, but needs to be known.

It’s too late. Care homes are riddled with it now because of those early, untested discharges. The irony of news emerging on the anniversary of VE Day of the “greatest generation”, as the PM describes them, being thrown under the bus.

There are 4000 beds at the London exel nightingale for a start where they could put 4000 of them instead of off loading them to pass on CV19 to other people in the care home
Beds need clinic staff, managers to look after. Staff that would be taken away from the hospitals, that would then fail patients whose consultant and nurses couldn't see them because they are working elsewhere!

It's one thing to not understand how the nhs works. It's excusable as it is extremely complex. But to claim to know better than experts is so laughable.

So much supposed health economic experts on MN though, it's amazing!