To ask for your hill you will die on? LIGHTHEARTED

[SheliaHammondDiet]

As per the meme ‘I will die on this hill’ what are your lighthearted hills you’re willing to die on?

Mine:

Phoebe Buffay is the worst friends character. She is not kooky, she’s mean, selfish and always looking for ways to put the other friends down. Everyone is too busy hating Ross to realise Phoebe is a cock. I will die on this hill.

But since they were 13 they both always had a little weekend job.

This boggles my mind a bit because 30 years ago when I was that age, the only possible job for a 13 year old was a paper round, and presumably those don't even exist any more. I haven't seen someone delivering papers in years.

@isabelle nowadays you can work from 14 if you the parent fill out a license thing on your council website. I worked in a cafe last year and we had 14yos (summer term of year 9 into year 10) working in the kitchen washing pots and taking the bins out etc. They were great and had a good time doing it plus they got money which they thought made them absolutely rolling in it! We didn’t let them near grills or sharp knives until 16/17.

Neither of us said our teens didn't have their moments! Dd certainly did, but they were relatively short lived, even though may not have felt like it at the time. Dd is very opinionated and strong willed and we didn't agree on everything that's normal.

That's not what we're saying at all. We're saying we didn't have to deal with extreme behaviour we saw other families have to.

Yes there's an element of luck but it's also in part down to parenting.

Regarding jobs for younger teens, yes paper rounds are less available now (although where I live still exist), but there's babysitting, dog walking, retail, waitressing etc

The rules have tightened up - rightly so - but it is still possible

My siblings, cousin and I all had part time jobs from 13/14 and dd and several of her friends did too. Dd mainly did dog walking and waitressing which she loved. Not only for the money she liked the social aspect and being treated like an adult too.

When she had to leave the waitressing job because her full time job after becoming an adult wasn't compatible with it she broke her heart. The place she waitressed at didn't have any full time positions unfortunately.

They got her a lovely gift and card as a leaving present and she still regularly goes in for a coffee/lunch and to say hello to former colleagues although 1 is now a close friend so they (normally) See each other regularly.

She loves her current job too it's just sad when you move on.

well bully for you that you live somewhere where there are jobs for teens.

My ds trawled round everywhere to get a job aged 15. No-one would touch him until he was 16. At 16, he then spent 2 months hard looking for work until he finally found a saturday job.

No-one round here would hire a 13 year old babysitter (and neither should - they highly inappropriate) and paper rounds are done by retirees, and anyway, wouldn't be possible due to school transport.

Ds tried to do dog walking, first question he was asked was - do you have insurance? No-one would employ him without, and the local rescue is not allowed to have under 18s walk their dogs, even though he was dog familiiar and 6'3" so strong enough to hold on to a dog on a lead.

Smug little stories about waitressing jobs. Great. NOT EVERYWHERE HAS THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. No waitressing roudn here for under 16. If ther palce serves alcohol, under 18.

Of course there are good parents and bad parents but I can 100% assure you that the corrolation doesn't go the other way. Kids with behaviour problems are not always the result of bad parenting.

In fact I would say that you can only consider yourself a good parent when you have had to deal with very difficult children who are struggling with life, and requiring every once of emotional energy and strength from you and your family.

If you haven't been there. Don't comment, and tell us all about what a wonderful parent you are. You're not, you just have average kids.

How has this fun thread turned into something else entirely?!

sorry crispy
It really hit a raw nerve with me.

You hid it well though 😀.

Well that's made me feel a bit crap TBH.

I am so sorry if I've made anyone on here feel crap Honestly wasn't what J intended at all I just went off on a bit of a thoughtless rant. Not thinking before I speak is my very worst trait and I'm really sorry. I'll wind my neck in.

Banana is a fab topping on pizza.

You hid it well though 😀.*

I'll just take a little hill and whisper - bloody love pineapple on pizza, but it goes better with pepperoni than ham.

Harry Potter is a load of coswollop.

And now there's banana on a pizza which is awful.

Dh had a Chinese special mixed meat curry once with banana in it. It’s best part of 13 years ago and he’s still traumatised about it.

Baked beans pizzas are superb

Banana is normal in Caribbean curries.

My hill is that most people are only out for themselves and friendship is best enjoyed free of expectation because most people really don't give a shit about you.

Realising this has made my friendships much less fraught.

Banana is normal in Caribbean curries.

Is it? I always presumed it was plantain.

I had a banana curry in a trendy Indian restaurant a few years back. It wasn’t unpleasant - but I wouldn’t choose it again.

I'm on @MooseBreath's hill with Samwise. Always the true hero of LOTR, especially in the books.

Right, where else do I start?

1. The Stones were better than the Beatles. The Doors were better than both put together.
2. 'Infer' and 'imply' have two distinct meanings.
3. It doesn't matter which characters were better than which. 'Friends' was a bucket of shit.
4. In Pullman's 'The Book of Dust' - the Lyra/Malcolm relationship is creepy and has 'grooming' written all over it.
5. Rik Mayall was incredibly sexy and I had a gigantic crush on him.
6. If you come from the UK, it's pronounced re-SEARCH. Not REE-search.
7. Mary Bennet was cool.

We actually live in a notoriously deprived area. So it wasn't easy to find jobs but yes I know some areas it's harder than others. Where I live is very community centred maybe because of the deprivation? Not sure,

Kids with behaviour problems are not always the result of bad parenting. At no point did I say this.

I certainly wouldn't describe dd as an "easy" child at all! In addition to her strong willed and opinionated personality she also has a physical disability which causes her a lot of problems including chronic pain which doesn't have a great effect on her mood at times.

I said that luck is a factor too plus of course there are environmental factors. But parenting IS a factor too and to deny that is disingenuous.

Happy to have pineapple on pizza but draw the line at banana, wouldn't fancy in curry either.

Some places do chocolate pizzas. Don't see the point myself tbh, but banana would work well on one, I imagine..

Parenting does have an impact on kids, of course it does. But kids can also turn out well in spite of bad parenting and vice versa, and I do dislike it when parents use their kids' achievements as some sort of proof of parenting prowess. A kid's achievements belong to the kid. Parents may have facilitated or hindered them but either way, the offspring are the ones who actually put one foot in front of another, and they deserve all the credit.

@steppemum

I agree with your post FYI! Just wanted more fun posts too, not just the bun fighting!

"Is it? I always presumed it was plantain"

You can use either, depends on the recipe/taste/region/availability.

Sweetcorn is the devil. Tiny yellow balls of evil