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BBC has to save £125million your suggestions please

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billysboy · 30/04/2020 10:37

So the Beeb has to save a bit of cash any suggestions

mine are as follows

Stop sending out news reporters and their crew everywhere to report from ie the coast when there is a gale or outside a hospital when someone important is being treated

Sack Steve Wright who earns £500k a year and his sycophants

Dont broadcast all night stop at 1 am and restart at 530 am

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WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 30/04/2020 20:09

Pelleas - I know how it was, but that isn't the world we live in nowadays. Not all that long ago, you had to stand and queue outside a phone box in the street, yet nobody really thinks it profligate and excessive that we all have one of our own on our person all the time. Why bother posting on MN when you could just phone or write to everybody you know (or dial random numbers/guess random addresses) and see if anybody who answers wants to discuss the same thing as you, like you'd have had to do in the old days? Grin

That said, I have wondered before on several occasions exactly who is watching the older children's programmes during the day time in term time (lockdown notwithstanding). Surely most kids will be at school, being actively home-schooled or ill in bed?! I disagree with the PP suggesting scrapping night-time broadcasting, as in our modern 24/7 world, adults may be working, sleeping or relaxing at any time of the day or night - but children don't.

Pelleas · 30/04/2020 20:15

I know how it was, but that isn't the world we live in nowadays.

With the way the economy is going, it's not unreasonable to expect a degree of lifestyle regression. I doubt the BBC will be the only organisation affected.

It's rather an exaggeration to compare a relatively modest reduction in service from two BBC children's channels to one, to a wholesale return to the pre-digital era, phone boxes and the like Grin

fivesecondrule · 30/04/2020 20:40

@DrinkVeneer well I think Death Slightly Outside The Northampton Interchange sounds amazing as long as they don't go overboard with the catering van lol

TDMN · 30/04/2020 22:36

So glad people have brought up Eastenders - Just had to google it and they are spewing out 4 episodes a week normally (without Covid) why not just one a week? Madness.

I am also on the 'dont care what happens as long as Greg James is okay' train Grin

Rollercoaster1920 · 01/05/2020 02:07

Tony: Are you listening to this? Or more likely Tim Davie if the rumours are true....

Cbeebies is good and useful. Keep it.

CBBC: I've never understood why CBBC is on during the day when kids are at school. CBBC content could be put on BBC2 early morning before school and again after 3. Weekend mornings too. Don't worry about the school holidays, the kids can operate iPlayer.

BBC1 is the general channel and should continue. 2/3/4 stuff can be merged into 1&2 with the recognition that iPlayer can be used to watch stuff when you want.

BBC Scotland should never have got the green light. Scotland already had regional control of BBC1 Scotland and BBC2 Scotland. Arguably the BBC Scotland Channel is just the old BBC2 Scotland re-branded with an expensive Regional News showpiece.

Actually I'd scrap the nations variants, branding and timeshifting of BBC1. Keep a window in the BBC1 and 2 schedules for regional focussed programming. (The normal network approach used by the rest of the world). Put more of the regional stuff in the standard channels - look at the success of Keeping Faith and the regions childrens stuff like Morag.

That cuts at least 3 channels saving the distribution costs across freeview, freesat, sky and virgin. Also saves money due to ceasing the nations playout and regional marketing and creative teams. Maybe less programme hours, although I'd prefer to reduce repeats, iPlayer removes the need for repeats.

Next: remove the weather presenters from vision. Keep to voice over only. No weather studios required, no make up costs.

Slash the top paid on-air talent as other posters have already suggested. Cheaper presenters would help the pubic perception of money well spent. In the current market they are welcome to see if the ad-funded stations want to pay them more. Value based 'talent' salaries need to be re-assessed to reflect the market.

Ensure news presenters are reminded that they are presenting the news, not building a personal brand.

Reduce the branding in News. There is BBC news. Cut the constant sub-branding for channels and radio stations and you'll save all that branding cost and help re-use of news bulletins.

Management can be reduced. The organisation is top heavy, not helped by that edict that no one should manage more than 10 direct reports. Simplify the organisational responsibilities, remove the grey areas. Empower people to make decisions in their area - rather than the continued consensus approach.

Be clear in your communications. Use fewer words so less working time is spent on reading / watching / listening to woolly corporate comms.

Remove the management overhead of each nation having their own org structure, especially back office functions.

It may look like I'm anti-nations in my previous comments, I'm not - they are great people who get stuff done. It is the organisational construct that is broken and causes duplication. The Nations and Regional teams are usually better than the central teams, and for lower cost too. Cardiff finance has worked pretty well, HR in Birmingham too. With the current remote working we are all doing it will help the transition. More Central roles should be remote from London. News, TV, radio, marketing, IT, legal could be more dispersed.

Don't make the mistake of a wholesale lift and shift approach like Salford was though. That sort of relocation is expensive. Allow people to work from where they want to so the work is dispersed across the country rather than create another BBC hub location.

The news channels:

Parliament should probably be on-line only now (more broadcast distribution cost saving).
World News is often better than the UK news channel. Merge them as they pretty much are now during coronavirus. Or just cease the 24/7 rolling news completely. Most people get news from an app or website anyway. If something is really big you can interrupt BBC1 to show it anyway.

Radio: there are too many stations, the number has to be reduced. probably by ceasing the regional radio stations - but having local opts on radio 2.
I'd be really sad to see 6 music go because it is the only station that actually plays music rather than have hours of inane chat. If 1 or 2 were to re-focus onto music then a merger could remove it though.

Decide whether you are providing a public service, or providing a service to all of the public.

I feel the latter has driven too much fragmentation and specialisation. Alba and Asian network feel too niche to me, but I can see a similar argument for Radio 3 and 4.

A previous poster suggested there are perks for staff. Not any more, things were rightly pretty 'normal' when I left:
25 days leave.
Standard defined contribution pension: max of 10% employer contribution. 4 x salary death benefit
Flexible working is possible, not guaranteed.
Maternity leave is above statutory, but not outstanding.
No creche on any sites I've been to.
No gym really. Central London has a small multi-gym
Canteens are not subsidised, are run by concessions like most offices.
Long service leave is not available for new employees
Expenses policy is tight (£16 for a meal when away overnight)
No bonuses.
Pay increases are negotiated by the joint unions, salary progression is pretty much down to getting a new job internally and negotiating at that point.

So the immediate competition (Sky, ITV, Channel 4) are either the same or slightly better.

I think the BBC is good, but can be better. I'd hate to see it become yet another commercial station or disappear entirely.
It will be interesting what happens with the next Director General.

FiveOutOfFiveGoldblums · 01/05/2020 02:23

Invest in new cheaper talent and let go of some of the overpaid old guard eg Jeremy Vine, Claudia Winkleman, Vanessa Feltz et all
That said, it's a lot more than their wages so I guess they'd just be better off as subscription content...actually, better idea - They allow overseas expats to pay to access iplayer. When away I would have happily paid license fee to access iplayer but not available.
You end up with filmon or crappy secret servers when many would have been happy paying the beeb to get killing eve, Strictly, Dr Who etc legit

Amortentia · 01/05/2020 03:10

BBC Scotland should never have got the green light. Scotland already had regional control of BBC1 Scotland and BBC2 Scotland. Arguably the BBC Scotland Channel is just the old BBC2 Scotland re-branded with an expensive Regional News showpiece

They didn’t have much choice, after they got their arses kicked when an investigation that found they spent way under what they should have been spending from money collected from Scottish TV licence payers compared to other parts of the UK.

I would say they set up the new Channel to fail by spending so little. The Nine is a joke, they claim it’s Scottish news from a Scottish perspective, wtf does that mean? It’s just a replay of the uk news. There should be a Scottish news show that is out there across Scotland, I’m in the central belt and hardly hear anything about the highlands & Islands.

I think in general programming is good at the BBC but, too many people are being payed ridiculous amounts. I think there is a simmering frustration with news and current affairs content. I’ve heard arguments that if you’re upsetting people across political spectrums you must be doing something right as an excuse to explain this frustration. But I have to strongly disagree, I think people are picking up an news content being put out that isn’t quite right, it’s been twisted a little and makes you question what the agenda is behind that. I do research in an area that comes up a lot and the way it’s presented is often misrepresented or not quite accurate. Its weird and worrying and leads to a lack of trust, especially when you are forcing your audience to pay a licence fee.

LaurieMarlow · 01/05/2020 03:12

Tony: Are you listening to this?

Well obviously not.

It’s not that they haven’t thought of any of this.

And a lot of this thread is just people saying ‘get rid of x, because I don’t like it’, when x is one of their most popular shows. Grin

Patte · 01/05/2020 07:40

Maybe they should stick to documentaries and news; other broadcasters are quite capable of making dramas of dubious public benefit. I'm a non watcher at the moment (and don't have a licence). I'd be tempted back if there was less but it was better quality, particularly factual programmes.

I agree with the PP who said that they could repeat programs on CBeebies - 3 years, say, of good quality programs, and then make very little new stuff, because children will grow out of it. I assume they do some of this already but make it policy. Anything new needs to have clear justification. They could probably do some of that with CBBC as well, but I suppose dramas etc would eventually age. (Incidentally, if there is, as a PP said, a 12 rated drama on CBBC, that doesn't sound right to me as CBBC is supposed to be for primary age children iirc.)

Use up and coming actors for voice overs and presenting - good for the actor as it gets them a foot in the door, and good for the BBC budget.

Hingeandbracket · 01/05/2020 08:34

max of 10% employer contribution. 4 x salary death benefit
This is more generous than many "normal" employers.

Hingeandbracket · 01/05/2020 08:35

It’s not that they haven’t thought of any of this.
No, it's that they are clinging on to the licence fee and their empire(s) while Rome burns.

TiddlestheCat · 01/05/2020 08:44

Shorten the news by removing any stories about Meghan and Harry. No one wants to hear about them anyway.

billysboy · 01/05/2020 08:48

If we had transparency on all of the £100k plus salaries plus the "freelancers" who are avoiding tax and NI

The BBC is trying to be everything to everyone and there is a culture of making everyone a "sleb" from the weather presenter to the traffic reporter on the radio

By cutting or capping salaries it would surely attract new talent through in the long term
If these people on the huge salaries are so good they will be snapped up by the commercial channels and thus produce their "fantastic "content still

There are some real heroes out there working very hard at the moment from Nurses to care home workers that have poor salary and conditions in comparison with people at the BBC

The BBC needs to stand up as a commercial business paid for partly by the licence payer but also by producing and selling content including the i player abroad

I look forward to listening to Steve Wright and serious jockin this afternoon safe in the knowledge that he is being paid £500k pa plus the other staff

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IDefinitelyHaveFriends · 01/05/2020 08:52

The BBC’s previous policy of making people who were clearly working as employees claim to be “freelance” may have been unethical, but it saved them a bunch of money and sick/holiday pay. If you just want to save on your licence fee then they should bring it back.

DodgyTrousers · 01/05/2020 08:55

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nitgel · 01/05/2020 08:56

They could have just not rebuild the eastenders set. Bit if a gamble on longevity of one soap.

nitgel · 01/05/2020 08:57

Yes stop paying zoe ball etc such high salaries. I cant understand this at all.

whatdoyoudonow · 01/05/2020 08:58

Stop bankrolling Lenny Henry.

What is it with the BBC and him?
Everything he does is dreadful yet they keep him on air.

nitgel · 01/05/2020 09:00

Fiveout vanessa feltz on bbc london has been great during lockdown (aparr from giving maureen from plaistow airtime) .

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 01/05/2020 09:07

Halve Gary Lineker’s salary for a start. Quartering it would be better.,

Patte · 01/05/2020 09:11

Don't pay for adverts on Spotify? (Just heard one and was a bit puzzled/surprised.)

StCharlotte · 01/05/2020 09:31

Fiveout vanessa feltz on bbc london has been great during lockdown (aparr from giving maureen from plaistow airtime) .

Agreed. I wasn't a big fan of hers but she just has such an upbeat voice, I feel I can hear the worst news from her and still cope.

The merging of the channels overnight has been funny, especially the callers from Gloucester for some reason.

billysboy · 01/05/2020 10:44

The freelance /ltd company thing may save the BBC money but it takes it away from the treasury and NHS etc

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Spiffingly · 01/05/2020 12:13

Any organisation that doesn't have to 'earn' its money (nhs, bbc) seem to be incapable of using money sensibly. Councils are awful for it too, spending huge sums on stupid, stupid stuff (art installations in barely visited places, local history hubs that never open and so on)

Fimofriend · 01/05/2020 12:44

Start paying the men the same as they pay the women who do equal jobs.å