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Captain Tom - What's the fuss about?

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scampichips · 29/04/2020 13:36

Okay I am not knocking Captain Tom at all, he is a brilliant brilliant man.

Although AIBU to wonder why our country has gone bananas over him? All he did was walk laps of his garden, people fundraise everyday and do a lot more! Think of all the marathon runners!

Whenever he is interviewed I think he also seems a bit confused why everyone is making so much fuss too!

I just don't get why our country has become obsessed with him??!

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x2boys · 29/04/2020 13:59

The public got behind it because we are in the middle of a global pandemic etc and there's not a lot of joy at the moment so it's heartwarming to see someone of his age raise so much money,in normal times he would have probably raised a few thousand at most but these are not normal times.

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flowerstar19 · 29/04/2020 14:07

£29.4 million and climbing OP. For me he is a beacon of hope at this shitty time. Surviving world war and then at almost 100 capturing the hearts of the nation and raising an incredible amount of money! Plus did you see this he said? 💕

flowerstar19 · 29/04/2020 14:09

This!

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Hobbesmanc · 29/04/2020 14:12

Bloody hell- joy suckers. He's a symbol of resilience and can do spirit. He's marshaled 30 million quid and got a number one hit. Its a great story to rally behind whatever your politics. And it seems much more authentic than a load of celebs swanning around africa or bouncing around a studio on expenses.

MouthBreathingRage · 29/04/2020 14:19

The public got behind it because we are in the middle of a global pandemic etc and there's not a lot of joy at the moment so it's heartwarming to see someone of his age raise so much money,

It's a shame people couldn't have fundraised when it all started, when keyworkers initially said they didn't have enough ventilators or PPE. It's why we have Comic Relief and such - people don't want to know unless they have a literal song and dance, followed by some 'heart wrenching personal story' before they will engage with things they previously chose to ignore. Then the 'cheerleaders' emerge, the ones who suddenly put all their focus on these 'wonderful becons of light', shout down anyone who dares be 'negative' (or you know, dare have a balanced opinion), until they get bored and move on to the next media-approved 'good old proper British, came from nothing - now we're here' person to fawn over.

bloodyhellsbellsx · 29/04/2020 14:21

He’s a nearly one hundred year old war veteran, who’s still living independently with his memory intact able to do this wonderful fundraising to help the NHS and therefore the British people in these times of crisis on the 75th year anniversary of VE day.

If you can’t understand why people have got behind that and sponsored him I am baffled!

eddiemairswife · 29/04/2020 14:22

He'll probably sing 'We'll Meet Again' with Vera Lynn on May 8th.

Whataloadofshite · 29/04/2020 14:24

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Menmy3 · 29/04/2020 14:26

You absolutely need to learn some respect and also stop being such a miserably mardy arse in general

crispysausagerolls · 29/04/2020 14:26

*Have you raised 28 million£?! Have you?!

Well if the op donated then yes, they technically did*

Bollocks did they. They contributed if they donated. Getting millions of people behind you to raise 28m is amazing. Who cares why? People just liked the cut of his jib and his age/determination. So??

I would struggle to get people behind me and raise so much. Most people would.

Can’t get over some of the shitty attitudes on these posts.

The80sweregreat · 29/04/2020 14:26

He is brilliant and a better role model to the young than people like the Beckhams or Kim Kardashian! He is probably is a bit bemused by the publicity , but it's well earned.

MyTwoLeftFeet · 29/04/2020 14:28

I love Captain Tom and am happy for him to get lots of attention. That said yes the fact that he raised so much money is somewhat 'lucky' he partly because of who he is (very old man who fought in the war and seems a likeable chap) and partly through luck (I'm sure there are many similiarly worthy people doing just as much to try and raise money who never happened to get any attention) caught the public's attention and now he's become a mini celebrity. Obviously he's a great guy but probably no more extrodinary than lots of other people (including elderly war heroes and the disabled) who are trying to do some good in the world. People like to collect behind a single person though and he's become that person.

HopeYouStepOnALego · 29/04/2020 14:35

Marathon runners are ten a penny though aren't they. This was something a little different for people to engage with and the whole 'veteran taking on a challenge at 99yo' gave it that feel good factor. I just hope the money is put to good use quickly and not wittered away or wasted.

TheSerenDipitY · 29/04/2020 14:35

he has become a symbol of hope in many peoples eyes in this time of stress and fear,
seeing this elderly gentleman, this 100 year old war veteran,

stepping up and doing his bit, yet again, for his country, instead of sitting and moaning about the state of the NHS he got up and did what he could, again for his country,
and in doing so he has really made the NHS struggles front and center and im hoping embarrassing the government into action, rather than leaving it to an elderly war veteran to fund raise to keep it in masks and hand sanitizer ( and some of the other stuff they need to save lives )

Figgygal · 29/04/2020 14:36

He’s a symbol in dark time’s when good news stories are short on the ground

Rosspoldarkssaddle · 29/04/2020 14:37

Because instead of sitting on his ass, being waited on and thinking he has paid his dues at 99, he got off it and wanted to give something back.
Why the outpouring? Because his attitude, humanity, bravery, resilience and determination is a great example to all, both young and old.
Because he is raising money to make those that work in the NHS's lives a little more comfortable by donating the money for the "nice to haves" that are not covered by healthcare funding.
Because what he says makes sense and is comforting to many and finally because he is humble and thankful for everything he has.

zukiecat · 29/04/2020 14:40

Captain Tom is amazing, and truly a man to be admired.

However, there's another very elderly lady (90) who is climbing the height of Suliven in Sutherland, by walking up the stairs in her home 282 times to raise money for the NHS.

There has been no publicity for her outside Scotland. Why?

DontTouchTheMoustache · 29/04/2020 14:44

Hi OP, I think I know where you are coming from in a sense, i read this post on social media and i feel like it puts into words this feeling that I've had about the sentimentality surrounding the NHS, captain Tom etc that I would never have been able to articulate.

PLEASE NOTE, NOT MY WORDS BUT A VERY INTERESTING READ.

"So, I'm getting increasingly concerned about the longer-term implications of what might lazily be termed the "Diana-fication" of the NHS - a mass outpouring of sentimental expression, and a sudden, rather revisionist clutching to the national bosom, as exemplified by large-scale charity fund-raising and public (social media) expressions of "support".

First problem with this: the NHS is not a charity. It's a national organisation (the clue is very much in the name, here) which is and should be publicly funded via taxation. Treating it as the subject of seasonal/event-driven fundraising efforts undermines the long-standing, democratically-expressed consensus that the NHS is something that everyone should take their fair share of responsibility for funding - not something that you sometimes choose to give money to when you're feeling particularly soppy about nurses.

Second problem: the trend for public "celebration" brings with it an increasingly prevalent portrayal of NHS staff as smiling, benevolent "heroes". They do heroic things, but they're not happy amateurs who put on a uniform when they feel like playing superheroes: they're highly trained professionals performing a range of difficult, stressful, and sometimes boring tasks in a variety of clinical and non-clinical roles. A sentimentalised portrayal of NHS workers risks undermining their professionalism.

(Aside: as others wittier and more articulate than me have pointed out, the Thursday evening "support" events have quickly taken on a grandiose, almost aggressive edge, in much the same way as wearing a poppy in November was once a quietly respectful commemoration of sacrifice but is now a "my poppy's bigger than yours so I care more about dead soldiers than you do" competition. The public gestures of support have quickly escalated from being a nice thing to do, into something that people are expected to do - to the point where those who don't join in are on the verge of being portrayed as granite-faced malcontents who want to see all nurses locked in a cage full of snakes and lions and poo, despite the fact that those people might be sleeping off a hospital nightshift or putting young kids to bed at 8pm on a Thursday).

Why does any of this matter?, some might ask. Where's the harm in a public upsurge of support for a vital, life-saving group of public servants?

Why it matters, I think, is because movements of this kind are, by their nature, transitory. They capture the public mood at a particular moment in time, and then that moment passes, and people move on to something else. And we are still going to need the NHS once this is all over. (Which, by the way, it won't be, for ages).

More than that: all this love-bombing gives the NHS and its staff a halo - a halo with a lustre that will inevitably fade. And that is dangerous. This is Britain. There will be a Newtonian response to all of this. A backlash. (It's probably already started in some quarters). So, once all of the coronavirus-driven disruption starts to fade, and the NHS is crying out for funding in more 'normal' times, there will be those - and there will be many of them - whose instinctive reaction will be that the NHS have had their day in the spotlight, and should go back to being undervalued and disrespected. "What? Them again? I gave £10 to Captain Tom and now you want me to pay more National Insurance? Fuck that. I'm voting Tory".

Perhaps most importantly of all, throwing charity and applause at the NHS lets the government off the hook. It leaves people thinking that, individually and collectively, we have all "done our bit", because we gave them a few extra quid when we were feeling totes emosh, and banged a saucepan on a Thursday evening. Whereas the more prosaic (but much less Instagrammable) truth is that the parlous state of the NHS is entirely attributable to a government which has spent the last decade running it into a state of deliberate neglect to the point where its only possible salvation is to be sold off, bit by bit, to the likes of Richard Branson. Nationalise the risk, privatise the profit. As ever. But, because the likes of Matt Hancock and Boris Johnson can publicly associate themselves with a time and a movement in which EVERYONE LOVED THE NHS, they dodge culpability for their systematic dismantling of it.

So, you know. Show some socially distant love on a Thursday evening if you want to. But remember that you can do far more for the NHS at the ballot box than you ever can from your window or your social media accounts."

Excited101 · 29/04/2020 14:51

I get that it's a lovely thing, but it has promoted an awful lot of hysteria. It would have bee much nicer left as a 'lovely thing' rather than trying to promote him into a saintly figurehead of Great Britain- that's just bizarre.

There are thousands of marathon runners, its not really the same, but there's still the marathon this year, in October.

Branleuse · 29/04/2020 14:53

Hes become a mascot. Like the queen.
I mean, I wish him well. Kudos to him inspiring people into raising that kind of money, but yeah its all a bit odd now

TheClootieDumplin · 29/04/2020 14:58

Like I said, he's a brilliant man. But why did the country feel the need to donate so much money to him and not to others also fundraising? That's what I can't get my head around. Was is the media?

Away with you you haverin arse.

OohThatCat · 29/04/2020 15:00

Most people if they are lucky to hit 99 take a well deserved rest. He's a little ray of hope in these dark times.

What people seem to gloss over is the fact he had to do this fundraising at all. It should not take a 99 year old man doing laps of his garden to prop up the NHS. It is the (failed) job of the govt.

supercee · 29/04/2020 15:02

My toes curl for people who start threads like this.

diddl · 29/04/2020 15:15

I think it's his age, his history, he seems a lovely, unassuming chap.

An gentleman the likes of which are rarely seen now!

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