to get bored with threads where people want all the perks........................

[2shoes]

that go with being disabled or having a disabled child.
like parking bays and toilets. do they want the disability as well?

Gess, can't even pretend to understand what it's like to live with a DC's disability. I am very fortunate. It does all seem to point at education/awareness, doesn't it?

i really cannot even bother to argue.
i find it selfish in any other time but the extreme. no peachy i would not have shouted at you when you were being sick but i would have complained very lopudly to centre managment.

if the baby changinfg facilities are situated within the disabled toilet the thar is poor planning but obviously mothers have every right to use it for thast purpose.

if not then you need to find the baby unit that is provided BY LAW for you to use. i dont think its safe to walk the streets at night but ui dont steal a car so that i dont have to

i apologise for starting this thread
I have had a shit afternoon........literally
so probably vented my frustration on here.
I have no problem with anyone using a disabled loo if they need it.(shouldn't have put the parking bit in)
I have found it interesting to hear what people have had to say about toileting tots and babies when out.
can I please ask a off topic question.
(ds is 15 so times have changed and of cause with dd I have a radar key)
is it more dangerous now to leave tots outside when you have a wee.
I ask as curious as to the level of danger parents face now.

Mamazon - they tend to squash them both in the same space because a changing unit fits within the minimum space required for a disabled toilet. It is perhaps poor planning, but I bet you my last pound it doesn't change in my lifetime.

If it meets minimum planning standards it isn't poor planning as such, and I can't see it likely that parent and pushchair bogs are top of the agenda for the next round of planning laws - so I not only sympathise with parents who take their pushchairs to the disabled toilets, I actively agree as it clearly fits within that allowed in floor layouts/planning/legislation. I'm not looking for an argument either, but telling the manager of a store is seriously going to do nothing. I really am as dull as dishwater ont his subject!

Anyroadup - as Gess suggests, I hope tomorrow is a better day for you 2Shoes

winestein- never dull on planning and regulations

oh god winestein I need to mail you a bottle of wine (have been meaning to for ages. Can you send me your address again? mwah xxxx

Ha ha - I was going to put in a disclaimer that I normally touch type (sort of) but have had a glass too many so my tyoing was something that even cod wouldn;t be able to understand and it took me ages to correct it so sorry if it x-posted.

Same goes for this message

After a while I left my DS outside toilets in his pushchair - he was over a year old though; and if I had the option I would use the end toilet and keep the door open as he would scream if was out of sight.

Hope you are ok No need to apologise for venting!

Ha ha! (hic!)

Did you get one Gess? Did ya? Did ya? [over-excited emoticon]

No, but only because the street emptied (neighburs with 7 cars between them left leaving neighbours with no cars between them). But I have your letter to use in future and you deserve some form of payment for being so wonderful. Red or white? And address please

Nah!
I only wrote a letter!
Did they check up on available parking then?

In Watford shopping centre, there are a whole row of toilets designated as "buggy" ones (about eight? Something like that). You can fit a double Maclaren in the cubicle (just...and the boys tend to want to play with the sanitary bin unless I growl at them). I think every shopping centre should do the same.

You could lobby shopping centres to put in toilets that contain enough room for strollers - after a lot of pressure form various groups here in Brisbane ( can't comment about others places) there are in fact at least 2 'stroller friendly' toilets in each set of female toilets at the centre. There is also a parent/child toilet in the family room - where you have a big and small toilet in one big cubicle. Big enough for dd2 to use toilet as well as me and dd3 to be in her huge pram - still plenty of room.

These companies want your money yet not prepared to make it easier and safer for you to shop.

oh you did more than write a letter. your chased the guy etc. I KNOW what dealing with local auhorities is like It's always more than writing a letter!

I didn't put it in because the street literally emptied overnight as people moved out. Any time of day or night there was no problem parking. If there's a problem around xmas I'll do it then.

Would like to say thank you (after all I a ma a radom stranger and you've given up your free time etc).

using disabled loos not a crime imo unless you faff around in there for hours like the daft bint in M&S the other day (and no, she has no unseen disability, as I know her)

people parking in disabled spaces however

feckers should be shot

Bloody hell Hunker. that's unheard of (previously, obviously) and really rather forward thinking. Although I hope a little further forward than my lifetime as I have just bet my last pound, so be a love and keep schtummm would ya?

Oh, honestly Gess - don't worry! I deal with Council bods around every other day of my working life so I know who to phone and which buttons to press, so to speak. It fitted in with my working day perfectly. Along with tearing other peoples work to shreds, which is my speciality

In fact, I seem to recall you were having probs at one point weren't you Cappucino?

what problems was I having?

I can't remember

When I was pregnant it occured to me that with a baby pressing down on your bladder, preg women should get priority over toilets! Nowadays I always let them go ahead of me in the queue.

I didn't think twice about using a disabled toilet when I was preg - would you disagree with that, 2shoes? As far as I was concerned my need was probably more pressing (literally) than a non- preg disabled person.

There's also a good loo in Debenhams in Uxbridge - it's a double room with an inner lockable door and an outer lockable door - the outer room is a baby change and the inner room is a loo (each with sink) and the loo has an adult-sized toilet and a toddler-sized one too.

Winestein, it's pretty amazing - I've never seen anything like it before, so I think your last pound's safe, really

Capp - I think it was a disabled parking issue? It could have been someone with a similar user name though.

No, I think that's it. Oh, the Mothercare in Harrow has a mahoosive loo, but rarely any toilet paper or soap, the feckers [barf]

Weeellllll, that is Mothercare for ya