Garden and fence

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Hello sorry will be slightly long. i moved in to my new house in Feb.and the weather is nice we have started clearing the garden and decided to put a new fence up all the way around as one side hasent really got one and the other side is just bushes and tress and I have 2 dc under 6 so need to be safe to let them go out and the neighbour was fine up until we said we was keeping the good side off the fence as it will stop the kids climbing on it but she wants to good side as her dog can climb but went out the other day came back to a note and she wants to know all what we've got planned for the garden and wants to see planning permission i don't need planning permission for a fence do I? As long as its not above 2m she also wants to know what else we have got planned for the garden as it is unlevel and we was going to dig so much to level it then put a patio on shes got no right as its my garden and will have nothing to do with her or is she right and I need to let her no my plans?

It’s not her business. You don’t need planning permission unless there are covenants on the deeds and you don’t need to give her the good side.

Politely tell her to do one.

Is she worried about puddles flooding her garden?

I would put the good side of the fence to face into MY garden. As long as it's erected on your land there should be no problems. Ignore her.

Put a fence up that is the same on both sides. To be honest I’ve never heard of a fence with good and bad sides (just had to google) There are plenty of fences with two “good” sides

I dint think I did it just seems to be everything we try and do in the garden she has a problem with two trees on my side she said I wasent allowed to chop them down as they was hers and her dog would get over but I can see where the concrete posy is and they are mine and will be coming down

The fence will be put on my side not hers shes been here longer then me so why hasent she paid for one if she is that bothered about where it goes

I would get a double sided fence to hopefully shut her up and do what ever you want to your garden. They are apparently called “happy neighbour fences” god I’m bored goggling fence panels

Assuming it is a back garden you can legally erect a 2m fence on your land, but if the land level drops it may be more dominant on their side in which case pp may apply. Front fencing may be more restricted in height , particularly if next to a road and by any covenants (new build estates often have these). Are you responsible for all three boundaries?

Ate there tpos on the trees?

Tell her she if she wants to pay for the fence between you and her she is welcome to the good side. If she doesn't want to pay then it's your fence and you'll be keeping the good side thanks!

Which side is your responsibility?

When my neighbour wanted to replace the chainlink fence on "my" side with a wooden fence, she asked me if it was ok. On the other side, I asked my neighbours how they would feel about removing the (very gappy, ancient and knackered hedge) and us replacing it with a fence, at our own expense, and they refused. They continued to refuse even after their dog got in our garden and attacked our dog, the cheeky fuckers.

At the time, I worked in the legal department of a local authority and was advised (in no uncertain terms!) by the solicitors that it would be illegal to remove the "hedge" or any part of it, so we just ran chainlink along the existing hedge.

So, I'd check which boundary is your responsibility and make sure that you don't damage any bushes or trees that form part of the boundary that is your neighbour's responsibility.

I personally in the past have always discussed with neighbours about fences & checked what dirt we both want. I think it's just the polite thing to do? Usually we end up going halves on cost.
There are rules I think where you're responsible for one side - but not sure which.
For neighbourly relations would it not be best to chat about what you're doing with the fence? At the end of the day it does affect her & you don't seem to care what she thinks. And yes you can surely get one which doesn't have concrete posts sticking out on her side?

What sort not dirt!

Alos, when you level yours, you will have take steps to prevent any change to the level in her garden. I think this is usually done by putting in some sort of shuttering.

She'd have every right to be pissed off you start digging and part of her garden falls into yours!

As others have said you're not necessarily responsible for that boundary and if you damage anything when you're not supposed to be doing anything then she may be legally allowed to raise a complaint.

Were! Were! Were!

Put a note back through her door saying that you don't need PP for a fence as long as it's 2m or less (assuming you are not directly next to a road). Finish by saying that your garden plans as they do not affect or concern her and therefore you will not be discussing this any further.

Her garden is already leveled and lower then my garden and the fence wouldn't effect the sun or anything on her garden it would be my garden thats effected as she has got a massive bush at the top that very high and blocks the sun on my garden she was fine about it at first and it to the right side but the fence won't be going up on her land it will be my side

If her garden level is lower a 2m fence will be more than that on her side, so may need pp.

Usually if someone owns a fence, the “bad side” faces them. That’s how you can normally tell who owns a boundary fence

I have chatted with her she was fine at first let her knew when the fence was booked in to get fitted then had a note through the door asking for plans where the fence is going and what we have planned for garden after I had already let her knew

Get some fence like this it's the same both sides.

When we did our fence last year the max we could do was 6ft from the top of the gravel board from our ground level. So the fence on my side is 6ft but because our neighbour garden in lower then ours the fence their side is about 8ft from their ground level due to us living on a hill.

As for the plans for your garden that nothing to do your neighbour.

"Put a fence up that is the same on both sides. To be honest I’ve never heard of a fence with good and bad sides (just had to google) There are plenty of fences with two “good” sides"
How on earth have you never seen a fence with a good and bad side? You do know that a fence with vertical panels has to be held together with a horizontal panel on the other side?

There is abit off the fence at top off garden and we are having it to match whats already at the top

I really, really wouldn't underestimate the importance to your happiness of being on good terms with your neighbours. If you possibly can, have a conversation with her to listen to her concerns.

You don't have to be a walkover, but if you can accomodate her wishes I think you should. For example, if neither of you want the "wrong side" of the fence, then do a double-sided post-and-rail fence with her paying for the cost of her side.

(Personally, I'd rather have the "wrong side" because I'd find it helpful for gardening).