DD punched a wall and is now in agony and can’t move her pinkie, will A&E see her?

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Had a row with her BF on phone and unfortunately punched a concrete wall not considering consequences. Is now in agony, can’t move her pinky finger and her hand is visibly not right. Ordinarily would take her down straight away but the hospital is a major city university hospital and I imagine (Well, also know based on what I’ve heard through social media) swamped with CV. The walk-in minor injuries centre near us is also now focused on CV and telling people not to come in and only go to A&E if it is life threatening, which DD’s situation isn’t. Otherwise they seem to just want you to suck it up. Don’t want to unnecessarily risk exposing her or our family to CV, especially if A&E won’t see her for the hand injury. She is 17 so I’d only be dropping her off as I doubt they’d let me in. Really I want to take her but DH is against it as is terrified of CV and wants me to look up how to treat it at home.

I live in a university city with large teaching hospital group. They have separated their a and e iirr so it's a relatively safe place to visit still with non CV19 issues. They are urging people to still use the facilities if they need to and to not ignore your normal injuries through accidents and emergencies.

If she needs treatment then she should go.

Sometimes it's obvious.

Which is not the same as "always" of even "often". 111 aren't going to be able to see the injury to decide.

Sometimes there really is no need to phone 111.

111 can't tell you if a bone is broken internally, they're not mind readers. If a bone is so obviously broken you'd have it set at a & e anyway.

So 'any finger or hand injury' = 'automatic trip to a&e'?

Really?

It doesn't at all follow that she's going to turn into an abuser. But minimising what's happened as a little teenage hi-jinks helps no-one, not least the OP or her daughter.

Nor does pretty much telling the OP that her daughter has mental health issues. I'm sure the OP is no fool and if her daughter does have these kind of issues, she is aware and doesn't need some random on the internet trying to scare the shit out of her. She didn't ask about anything other than her DD's hand. People need to wind their necks in and stop pretending they're experts.

So 'any finger or hand injury' = 'automatic trip to a&e'?

I can't see where anyone has said that on this thread (apologies if I missed that post). I'd be surprised if anyone really thought that, you would hope that most people would display a little common sense.

I would have thought best to stay in the 111 questions. They will direct you to the most appropriate facility to be dealt with. The pain in the mean time is a learning lesson and no terrible damage is going to befall her in the interviening hours. I wouldn't want someone in my house hold to go to A&E when it wasn't actually an emergency.

Nor does pretty much telling the OP that her daughter has mental health issues.

I don't think this is fair. I don't think anyone on this thread, or could, diagnose her daughter as having MH issues, nor has anyone held themselves out as an expert.

I think the general message has been 'you probably should get her to a&e to get her hand checked out. But I think there also needs to be a conversation about the behaviour that's led to this, because punching things and breaking your hand is not normal or healthy'.

I think the suggestion of raising the possibility of whether a conversation with CAHMs would be necessary is a really good one. That conversation could happen during the trip to a&e.

I am mystified that people think the manner of the OP's daughter's injury is a non-issue.

Oh ffs she punched the bloody wall. She's on lockdown, life is all over the place, stop bloody projecting all sorts of metal health issues and ridiculous claims. She's probably just a bit pissed off with life right now and punching walls instead of getting pissy and preachy with people on the internet.

Some posters on here should probably go and punch a wall instead of the OP.

Your DH sounds a delight, not wanting his DD to get treatment.

Oh ffs she punched the bloody wall. She's on lockdown, life is all over the place, stop bloody projecting all sorts of metal health issues and ridiculous claims. She's probably just a bit pissed off with life right now and punching walls instead of getting pissy and preachy with people on the internet.

How would you feel if your husband started punching inanimate objects because he was fed up with lockdown? Would that be okay too?

I have been to a&e a fair bit over the years with a household of sports folks. My DS has broken 2 fingers in past, a pinkie and most recently a ring finger at start of lockdown. We had to go to A&E for that abd never seen it faster or quieter. We were in, triaged, X-ray, sorted and home in just over an hour - amazing !

Do not hesitate to go...hands are really delicate and important. If they heal wrong they can trouble you forever.

Take her

I think the suggestion of raising the possibility of whether a conversation with CAHMs would be necessary is a really good one. That conversation could happen during the trip to a&e.

That should absolutely be the last time to have that conversation IMO. IF the OP (who knows her daughter better than anyone) decides to have that conversation, I believe it would be far better to have it when her DD is calm. Not when she is no doubt in pain, scared and upset about the argument with her boyfriend.

However, I'm sure the OP is best placed to make that call.

A suspected breaK is appropriate for a&E ...it is the A rather than the E! You would not call an ambulance, but you need to be seen

Bloody hell, so many armchair psychiatrists here. I've occasionally hit inanimate objects before in frustration (for example when everything was going wrong with the dinner I was cooking). It doesn't follow that I have anger issues. On the contrary, when confronted with twats at work I'm very good at keeping calm.

So 'any finger or hand injury' = 'automatic trip to a&e'?
No, don't be silly. But the OP said this:

Is now in agony, can’t move her pinky finger and her hand is visibly not right.

Which does sound worth getting checked out.

FFS does nobody remember a first big argument with a boyfriend as a teenager? I remember being so frustrated I lobbed my phone across my bedroom - does it mean I have mental health issues, anger management issues or a problem with violence? 18 years down the line I’d say no. She’s a 17 year old girl - calm the hell down with all your anger management nonsense.

@gandalf456

I’m totally confused. Have you mixed me up with someone else?!

**not normal, she is only 17 and to recognise that she is either self harming or is potentially in an abusive relationship is fucking important. Don’t be so dismissive. Rolls eyes. Ffs

Bold fail

Really nothing to add except OP’s husband sounds like a prize twat.

Another man who’s so ‘scared’ of covid that his family have to do exactly as he says. Sounds about right !

People (Like the OP’s DH) are losing their common sense.

Glad to hear you’ve gone to A&E, hope she’s ok.

I hope she is ok.