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High Earners not in "bullshit jobs"?

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VirginWestCoast · 24/04/2020 13:58

Inspired by a couple of recent threads, the"bullshit jobs" one and the one asking how posters became well off.
Mumsnet seems to have people on generally higher incomes than the UK as a whole, with people quite nonchalantly saying that they and/or their DH are on 150k+ and a lot of people were saying on the Bullshit jobs thread that they were very well paid.
In the other thread, lots of people out their success down to sheer hard work, which I don't doubt, but lots of people work hard in worthwhile (ones which are pretty much universally recognised as worthwhile) jobs but are never going to be on 150k+ like nurses, teachers, cleaners, care workers. I know there are others and these are the ones most often trotted out but bare with me:
So it cannot just be working hard, it has to be working hard in the right areas (finance etc, I'd assume) to be well off if you aren't born into it or inheriting it.
And yet, while you may have, for example, doctors on 70k or so, the 150k+ group don't seem to include the typical "worthwhile" jobs (though I know this may well be down to me not being very familiar with the jobs in finance, senior management etc)

So my question is this:
If you are a high earner, do you feel that your job is socially useful? "Bullshit job"? Something else entirely? Do you think that what you're paid is fair?
Also, with regards to hard work, what did you have to do to qualify for your job role/ how long did it take?

This is just for personal curiosity so any answers are greatly appreciated. Smile

OP posts:
LaurieMarlow · 24/04/2020 21:43

There’s a laser focus on things like healthcare and basic services at the moment, which is understandable, but silly if taken to extremes.

Presumably we don’t want to live like this forever.

There are many things that make life worth living, or that support the life we want to live. I don’t want to live in a world without entertainment, fashion, travel, good infrastructure, good legal systems, financial structures, decent IT systems. The list goes on.

Lots of people’s talents and experiences are valuable to society.

CookieDoughKid · 24/04/2020 21:44

Also, with regards to hard work, what did you have to do to qualify for your job role/ how long did it take?"

I forgot to answer the above question. My degree was in Chemistry and the particular technology industry I work in now didn't even exist till relevant recent years. I was a high rate tax earner by the time I was 25 but I followed opportunities every where switching jobs and locations every 2 years. Being mobile helps and a good network.

Home42 · 24/04/2020 21:45

Sadly without me and my team there’d be no one to prepare the documentation to register and renew licenses for new medicines. No licenses = poor quality standards and no independent check of risk benefit profiles.
Medicines would no longer effectively or safely in the hands of all these doctors and nurses.

In my early career I worked clean rooms, was a nuclear licensed drug development chemist, lived abroad, travelled for work a lot (Finland quickly stops being fun when you are working in the hospital radiopharmacy, next door to the morgue in the dead of winter and living in a room at the Ibis for weeks on end).
I suspect most people in highly paid jobs made sacrifices and do roles that could not be picked up easily by people without their skills and experience.

missionalmostimpossible · 24/04/2020 21:46

I work in finance, accounting specifically, for a social housing provider. On the face of it, it might seem we number crunchers don't do much, but someone had to keep the books balanced, someone had to keep the money controlled, and someone has to report on where things are going wrong.

I'm alright with getting paid a high salary to do all of the above, given my organisation builds and rents a huge number of below market rent homes, so does a lot of social good.

feelingdizzy · 24/04/2020 21:54

I love how honest everyone is being,I dont earn anywhere near some of you,but I make nearly 70k as headteacher of a very large primary school. I also do another training role for the local authority.It's not a BS job,although there is a lot of BS and paperwork in it!

feelingdizzy · 24/04/2020 21:55

It's not a bs job I meant to say!!

AteAllTheAfterEights · 24/04/2020 21:56

@iwanttobreakfreeeeee are you sure you aren’t me? Uncanny!

Mlou32 · 24/04/2020 21:58

I don't think any job is a bullshit job. Regardless of what it is, they all pay tax which helps to fund education, healthcare etc. So all jobs have worth.

BlueJava · 24/04/2020 21:59

No I wouldn't say my job is socially useful. It is however, very useful if you are a capitalist. My qualifications are a BSc Hons (tech subject), MBA and a further MSc. I work in tech.

Dontrainonmyparade · 24/04/2020 22:01

170k between us and we are both considered key workers. I’m a nurse, but not NHS and non clinical, approx 70k of our joint income is mine. We have and do work hard, absolutely not bs jobs in the slightest. I need to search out the thread you refer to, but think it may make me annoyed.

inwood · 24/04/2020 22:04

My job isn't worthy in the social sense by it's a cog in the economy and as I work on construction we would grind to a halt without it. 89k.

Aneley · 24/04/2020 22:14

BA, 2xMA, PhD. Worked in academia which I barely financially survived (to get to decent salaries you need years invested), then moved into private sector where I am now in senior management of a financial services company. While my job doesn't save lives, it does contribute to economy and therefore enables the state to pay salaries to those who do. I don't think there is such thing as BS jobs (and I went from working as a cleaner and in retail to pay my way through school to the job I have now) - each contributes something to the society as a whole.

useless65 · 24/04/2020 22:46

what's a throwaway genre fiction book - and how do you get into that? No honestly its a serious question

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