To think “fuck it” to home schooling after this?

[Justgivemewine]

So we do ds2’s, year 7, maths homeschooling, ds2 is quite able, so he gets most of the questions right ( they mark themselves) but we had some stress trying to get a couple of questions to match the answers provided by the teacher as one answer was blatantly wrong and another question we aren’t sure about either because it was stuff he said he hadn’t covered yet. Even so, he gave it a go but couldnt match the answer given. Turns out that answer given by the teacher was wrong and ds2 actually been right all along.

Other maths questions are apparently a recap on work already done before lockdown but ds2 claims “but we havent’t done this”, me being a maths bod try to explain it to him, much frustration on both sides as unknown to me at the time some of it’s a totally new concept for him.

Later (ie after the work was due in) we get an email from teacher, admitting errors in answers, and explaining later questions are actually year8 stuff that they haven’t covered yet in year7 and with explanations how to do it.

Wtf, if they are giving questions from year8 to year7 students, how about a bit of warning beforehand before parents get superstressed. Maths is my thing anyway so trying to explain concepts you think your child should already know (Because the teachers say it’s a feckin recap)is doable, but not everyone is a maths bod. Some parents might ace the english or art homework instead, mine don’t stand a chance 😂

Lots of unnecessary stress and upset could’ve been avoided for everyone.

Bubblebu

It sounds like there's a few paranoid parents looking to be offended if you and your friends are getting that worked up by some jokes in society about the fact some parents are going to be seeing that maybe their child isn't as angelic as they claim.

I'm struggling to think how a school communication translates to 'we think your kids are little shits'.

If you think primary school teachers asking parents to help their kids upload their work is a judgement on kids being little shits you're going to have real issues at secondary school where we have pastoral meetings with those who are struggling, supporting learning evenings for KS3/4 to give tips for parents (requested by parents), parent communication software sends out reminders about revision for end of year exams / using the homework platform / revision session timetables and so on. We also have additional parents' evenings for struggling GCSE students where we give packs to support home revision and we ask parents to support this. Our pastoral team and senior leaders contact home more for specific students who may be struggling for a variety of reasons.
All this is a sign we hate the kids, absolutely hate the pesky little shits and would love all parents to realise this so we can have a child free school.

SallyLovesCheese
My father was the head teacher of a high performing state school secondary school at which (to my shame) I was a pupil.
My daughter went to a fee paying prep for a while but not now - not that that is relevant.
The point is this - do you not think teachers all over the land are now thinking - harrah!! now you really DO get to see what little shits your kids are?

By setting over expectation homework to be uploaded (with well-we-told-you-so responses) or just sitting in school doing admin and thinking "well I always knew that child was stupid") etc

(It is kind of the same with the NHS in my experience - I have very low BMI never smoked drink alcohol occasionally got breast cancer at 48 but their attitude since lock down is totally DO NOT CONTACT US EVER if we want any kind of communication we will contact you exactly on our terms and any outcome of that is YOUR fault).

This seems weird because genuinely both of my parents were teachers hence I would like to home school my children but do you not think the dynamics of the country (totally in favour of all "key" workers allowing the "key" workers to diss off everyone else) is a bit unbalanced?

OP, I thought you had requested for this thread to be taken down?

@TooMuchBloodyChoice
Thank you. Your kind words may be lost on this thread they are appreciated.

LolaSmiles

Yes totally prepared for secondary school teachers telling me how stupid my children are.... it is only a year off (that is if teachers are still actually going into a classroom and not bossing pupils on zoom).

Why should this thread be taken down??

I am sincere and a genuine poster.

All the teachers I know are really missing the kids. Missing being in the classroom. Missing the interactions. Missing the energy.

Can we PLEASE all remember the OP is embarrassed by this thread and says she has asked MN to take it down. There is really no point in continuing it and getting it back into Active

bubblebu start your own thread if you have opinions to air, perhaps?

bubblebu that comment suggests you have not RTFT.

The point is this - do you not think teachers all over the land are now thinking - harrah!! now you really DO get to see what little shits your kids are?
They're not, well nobody I know is. We actually like our students and miss them.

Most people I know have joked that a couple of parents who are unsupportive, argue with school and try to argue their child is always innocent because it's the mean nasty teachers who dislike their child are going to discover that their child is not the saint they claim. Those parents and students are the minority and yes it is mildly amusing.

I'm on maternity leave and especially miss my form group because we go through y7-11 with them. Some of them have complex issues, some display challenging behaviour and none of them are little shits.

If you honestly believe that staff think their pupils are little shits then you're probably best home educating because that chip on your shoulder is sizable.

@Bubblebu - re the NHS - actually they have been encouraging people to contact them. They may be working differently but they are still working, still sorting medical issues.

I am not a troll. All my posts are genuine
My kids have just submitted their first assignment to Seesaw (I tried to make sure it was visible to the teacher but the screenshot is not clear) it is on trigonometry which I had to work out last night.

I know I will not get a response - just loads of parent mails from teachers today saying "do this" or "why have you not done that"

Yes I do think it is the same culture as the NHS. Bin off anyone you think is not important (i.e. anyone who is not suffering from Covid19) for evermore (I have multiple examples of this) and just issue lots of invectives online to all parents and conclude what you want about their intellect / prognosis.

@Bubblebu - you may be sincere and genuine but you’re making little sense. Teachers DO like children, the job would be totally impossible if we didn’t. No teacher has sent an email referring to your children as ‘little shits’ or ‘thick’. The teachers at your children’s school are sending (in your opinion) too many emails and (again, in your opinion) demanding too much work be handed in. The solution is to email, requesting to be removed from mailing lists or you could set up a divert on your email so you don’t see them.

I’d suggest speaking to your parents to find out that teachers don’t hate kids. Although it also sounds like you have some unresolved issues about your own schooling so maybe you need to work through that too.

because you sound like you need them.

The NHS have NOT been encouraging people to contact them. I live in Oxfordshire at one of the best NHS trust and the culture is definitely "DO NOT CONTACT US" protect our NHS stay indoors do not ever go out do not burden our NHS

sorry but it is true.

@Bubblebu

(Its a bit like the empty NHS hospitals and the dancing NHS workers. no?)

Only in that people are putting their own spin on what is going on.

CarrieBlue

Nope - I was totally raised by teachers and from an academic childhood.

However it is still the fact that teachers so far as I can see are using the current climate to "back at you" to parents and saying "well we told you your children were thick all along".

If anything the last 4 days have demonstrated to me that my kids are not stupid at all - infact my son is brilliant at computers and maths and my daughter is very very creative and openly intelligent.

I am not saying this because "all parents think their kids are bright" - far from it - but I think the teachers at my local school are using this situation for their benefit.

And if you are a teacher I would do that too!! (sarcastic) why not tell that annoying kid in your classroom just how stupid he/she was by an email to his parents (or if not by a direct email maybe by an implicit parent mail?)

NO ONE SAID YOU WERE A TROLL. The OP said she wanted this thread to die.

Please respect OP's wishes...

Time for

However it is still the fact that teachers so far as I can see are using the current climate to "back at you" to parents and saying "well we told you your children were thick all along".

You’re delusional, or projecting, or something. It sounds like you have an issue with your father as a teacher in your school (“to my shame” etc) and are now taking that out on all teachers. Teachers who aren’t asking about homework for fun, By the way, but because they actually care about your children.

I am really not projecting.

In fact I have just received the most supportive and intelligent head school message from the head of school about home schooling and how difficult it is.

But yes any parent would take to heart the individual multiple daily emails ("you must do this" "you must upload this" "your child must read this to you") you are stupid and your child is stupid we all joked about it in the staff room !! (we do all know this stuff)

(and no my kids are not stupid thanks and all).

…. like anyone every listened to my children read any book ever...

I do listen to my children read every night but clearly it is not enough to make them not "stupid"

Teastory

"Teachers who aren’t asking about homework for fun, By the way, but because they actually care about your children"

well as a teacher do not ask for anything.

that is my point - I would home school my kids having looked at all of these emails.

that is all I am saying.

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I cannot respond anymore because every reply you make is just putting words in teachers' mouths and making assumptions about us as a profession.

I wish you well.

you are stupid and your child is stupid we all joked about it in the staff room !!

Yeah, projecting.