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WIBU to post this on every snitching or Covid judging thread?

81 replies

saraclara · 21/04/2020 17:28

...because I really think that people should think before they run to the reporting website or make assumptions about their neighbours and community memebrs.

WIBU to post this on every snitching or Covid judging thread?
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St0pTryingT0MakeFetchHappen · 22/04/2020 10:01

As long as you surround it with biscuit emojis, yes! I'm not surprised COVID has brought out the Neighbourhood Watch wannabes, but the volume is amazing!

Nekoness · 22/04/2020 10:07

I despise this British cultural trait of looking the other way. Asshat on the train harassing someone? Entire carriage winds their necks into their books and pretends it’s not happening. Asshats out there flaunting the rules? Don’t say anything, don’t even dare to judge them, you might get it wrong. Best to ignore it.

If we spoke up more, we’d have less assholes swanning about thinking they can get away with any antisocial behaviour they want and no one will say boo to them.

Nubbled · 22/04/2020 10:10

Don't snitch to the police. Snitch ON the police.

Ihopeyourcakeisshit · 22/04/2020 10:12

Lots of people 'policing' though with no grounds.
My dh works in an essential business in the Government list, he has been filmed by people on their phones and had someone hammering on the door shouting abuse and demanding to know his name etc.
Fortunately an A&E consultant told them to fuck off.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 22/04/2020 10:13

@Nekoness

Unless someone is in immediate danger, not judging a situation you know almost nothing about is a good way to live. Someone harassing someone else on a train is obviously not the same but there is only so much people can do without making the situation potentially worse.

Seeing a group of young adults out together? Maybe they’re flaunting the rules but in my road, there is a group of 20 something year olds who all live in the same house.

millymaple · 22/04/2020 10:16

I agree about not rushing to report but am not wild about encouraging people to distrust police most of whom are doing a decent job

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 22/04/2020 10:17

I agree about not rushing to report but am not wild about encouraging people to distrust police most of whom are doing a decent job

Say it louder for the morons in the back who may be ignoring you.

Brefugee · 22/04/2020 10:18

I despise this British cultural trait of looking the other way. Asshat on the train harassing someone? Entire carriage winds their necks into their books and pretends it’s not happening. Asshats out there flaunting the rules? Don’t say anything, don’t even dare to judge them, you might get it wrong. Best to ignore it.

One of the things that i am guilty of repeating, ad nauseum, on places like Twitter is that when this is over, given all the grassing up and spying on neighbours that has been going on my expectation is that there will be ZERO harassment on public transport, of women going about their business and no ignoring of potentially DV screams coming from the neighbours.

Because the UK is now a nation of snitches. But we all know that won't happen. So snitches can do what they like, i don't care, but afterwards their victims won't forget easily.

lazylinguist · 22/04/2020 10:19

Asshats out there flaunting the rules?

It's 'flouting' the rules. Flaunting means showing off. By all means report someone if you are 100% sure they are doing something illegal or against the current government rules. Definitely stand up for someone who's being harrassed if you can.

That's not what the OP was talking about though, was it? This is about self-important, judgemental arseholes who gleefully jump to conclusions when they don't know the circumstances (often based on their own questionable interpretation of the rules).

AlphaIndigo · 22/04/2020 10:21

@millymaple Absolutely. Not sure why these two things are being presented together.

SarahTancredi · 22/04/2020 10:24

I despise this British cultural trait of looking the other way. Asshat on the train harassing someone? Entire carriage winds their necks into their books and pretends it’s not happening. Asshats out there flaunting the rules? Don’t say anything, don’t even dare to judge them, you might get it wrong. Best to ignore it

The difference here is one thing you can absolutely be sure if what you are seeing. How can someone groping someone be anything but a grope.

The other is a situation where you cant possibly have any idea what they are doing out and even the police have fucked up with that. Like when they threaten to lie about charges or tell people off for being in their gardens or threatening to taser someone for being out on his own delivering shopping to family

And yeah if I see stuff that looks dodgy amd someone potentially In danger I call it out even if I get told to fuck off by both parties involved.

But i wont be switching on people who dare be outside

millymaple · 22/04/2020 10:26

YOU ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK TO PEOPLE WHEN DROPPING OFF SHOPPING.

MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 22/04/2020 10:29

Funny isn't it how so many people are hell bent on grassing up neighbours for going out twice but are too worried to report suspected child abuse because it's none of their business or they don't really know what's going on or they're worried it'll come back on them.

🤷🏼‍♀️

millymaple · 22/04/2020 10:32

As an example I had a conversation with a volunteer about how I would get the money to her

millymaple · 22/04/2020 10:33

Milk - exactly.

Zaphodsotherhead · 22/04/2020 10:38

It's the passive-aggressive nature of it that makes me laugh.

My neighbour said yesterday, as I ran past, 'so how long have...I mean, how far have you gone today?' (I was only out for an hour yesterday but the day before I ran for two and a half hours). He wanted to let me know that 'he was watching and timing'.

I'll go out for as long as I damn well please, thank you, in this rural area where I ran for 11 miles and saw NOBODY...

lazylinguist · 22/04/2020 10:42

Funny isn't it how so many people are hell bent on grassing up neighbours for going out twice but are too worried to report suspected child abuse

I suspect it's because when you grass people up for supposed breaking of lockdown rules, you can indignantly virtue-signal about it on social media for the likes.

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 22/04/2020 10:42

What, so you don't want others putting judgy comments but you want to post that on every judgy thread. So, you are judging the judgy?

The judgy should mind their own business and so should you.

Slugalugs · 22/04/2020 10:46

I quite liked the poster until it got to the "policing the police" bit at the bottom.

Don't do Facebook-type social media anyway and am not into taking too much notice of people when I'm out (yes, for legitimate reasons) as long as they allow me to keep my distance from them.

Unworthie · 22/04/2020 10:48

I don't think you'd be unreasonable, from someone who has been stopped twice by the police, showed them my reason for being out and was thanked for my help.
That fact hasn't stopped the abusive notes through the door, or being shouted at by my neighbours.
It all boils down to the fact they think I'm getting something they're not and are jealous of that.

I'm volunteering packing food parcels for local vulnerable people who need them. I don't drive so I can't deliver them, I go to the hub 4 days a week and collate lists and pack up the boxes.

And as I said I don't drive, public transport has been reduced and we've been asked not to use it. I have to carry what I buy, so I tend to need to go to the shop every day I volunteer. My income also has come in bits and pieces, while waiting for furlough payment, so I have to also go when I actually have some money.

If these people actually stopped and asked, I'd show them my id and explain why I'm out most days, sometimes more than once if an emergency request comes in - I'm a key holder for the hub so I need to go sometimes. But they don't. What's really fucking ironic though is that some of these people are breaking the guidelines themselves. Dogs being walked multiple times a day (as is the norm here) neighbours in and out of each others houses, kids playing in each others gardens. I'm not bothered if they want to do those things, but I think they've got some brass neck having a go at me.
In my case it's a core group of 4 houses, and because I'm an outsider to the area. It's just the latest stick to beat me with at the moment.
I let them crack on, because if I hadn't set foot over the door for weeks there'd be something in that for them to moan about. The police were reasonable when I spoke to them, I don't know if I was reported as such or if I was seen by the police and they stopped me randomly. Either way it doesn't matter.
Some people will jump on anything because they are too narrow minded to think about it, and too scared they might be wrong about what they think to actually ask and get an answer.

SarahTancredi · 22/04/2020 10:52

slug

Actually one police officer has been fired. Others have been reported and spoken too and even a police chief had to publically back track on their announcement they would consider checking shopping bags. Another was reported for telling a family they couldnt even be in their front garden. And theres footage of 5 police officers showing up to threaten a man who had filmed a traffic warden ticketing cars that people haven't been able to move due to lock down. More police than an hos van was broken into weeks previously. That..didnt appear to matter.

The police have made some.massive errors including asking civilians to police eachother and they absolutely need reporting

OneandTwenty · 22/04/2020 10:58

You know that people moaning against "snitching" are the ones who make up their own rules and pretend the current guidelines don't apply to them.

And I am sure the selfish and untitled behaviour of some people won't be forgotten when it's all over. But we always knew that most people are selfish twerks.

I am glad I don't live near many of the posters on here!

SarahTancredi · 22/04/2020 11:03

And I am sure the selfish and untitled behaviour of some people won't be forgotten when it's all over. But we always knew that most people are selfish twerks

Are you talking about people who stick to the rules just not the rules of absolute misery concocted by nosy neighbours who wont be happy unless everyone living off puddle water counting out dry pasta because they dont imagine that their neighbour could possibly be a key worker or approve of the hot cross buns bought with said dry pasta?

OneandTwenty · 22/04/2020 11:06

I was more talking about the twats who thought the rules didn't apply to them and brought stricter rules and closures that was absolutely necessary. HTH

MakeMineWithRhubarbJam · 22/04/2020 11:12

@Zaphodsotherhead

Maybe he secretly wants to be yourg coach? You should ask him if he's got a stopwatch so he can time you and give you tips on getting faster.
Grin

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