WIBU to post this on every snitching or Covid judging thread?

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...because I really think that people should think before they run to the reporting website or make assumptions about their neighbours and community memebrs.

I think most people are sticking to the rules tbh.

But people including the police are making up their own .

This one hour of exercise for starters. Thats bull.

Many of the photos published are taken with wide angle lenses I'm.a desperate attempt to make people look closer together. Somehow the photographer gets a free pass for being out in the same place.

Shopping is allowed and yes you may absolutely buy anything in the shop with your essentials and policing of what constitutes essentials has to stop. If a shop sells stuff and is open you are allowed to buy.

If you are lucky enough to be rural and have plenty of your own land then why can't you walk round it more than once.

And all those nasty comments about people on the tube when they have no choice but to use a reduced tube service and cram on.

Deaths are probably more caused by hospitals refusing to admit anyone until they are dying or treat anyone for anything other than covid.

Not cos someone shock horror went out twice but maintained a distance

Actually one police officer has been fired. Others have been reported and spoken too and even a police chief had to publically back track on their announcement they would consider checking shopping bags. Another was reported for telling a family they couldnt even be in their front garden. And theres footage of 5 police officers showing up to threaten a man who had filmed a traffic warden ticketing cars that people haven't been able to move due to lock down. More police than an hos van was broken into weeks previously. That..didnt appear to matter.The police have made some.massive errors including asking civilians to police eachother and they absolutely need reporting.

I was aware of (most of) the incidents you mention, but feel it is malicious and counter-productive to actively encourage people to do so.

Why?
They have no problem.asking us to police each other .

And every service has a " how did we do" thing going on.

I.reveived a text message just a few weeks back asking to review the "service " I received

Those of you who have been challenged by neighbours, what kind of lifestyle do they normally live?

People I’m acquainted with, who are the snoop and snitch sort, have one thing in common. They live pretty restricted and locked down lives normally - stay at home, go to the supermarket once a week, often poor health.

So it’s like the snoop and snitch brigade are suddenly on the right side of life and others are now expected to live to their standards, they revel in snitching. Yay, they have an important role in society now; they have a voice. Sad really.

@Nekoness I do t think we’ve been living in the same Britain. The British are shockingly nosey and fond of state interference. The sheer number of posts on mn about reporting people to ss/for benefit fraud/bullies of their children to schools/parents from school that aren’t nice to them/to the council for various things they don’t like/owning specific dog breeds etc. One thing the British are not good is keeping themselves to themselves. They may not like confronting people in person but they love a good snitch.

I do volunteer shopping in my village and we were advised to make sure we chat to people (from a 2m distance). Some of the people I've delivered too are really have a shitty time and are deprived of their normal social network so I do think it's important to be able to have a 10 minute chat.

That's completely different from hosting a bbq for 20 in your back garden.

I was more talking about the twats who thought the rules didn't apply to them and brought stricter rules and closures that was absolutely necessary. When did that happen? When did the stricter rules come in due to rules not being followed?

So you thought providing details on who you could snitch on the Police to would bring balance to the situation? No, you just want to push your own agenda.

Perhaps you should think a bit before first.

Why? They have no problem.asking us to police each other .

Not sure it's quite like that.

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/18/police-call-for-end-to-lockdown-shaming-as-a-weapon-in-feuds

I totally agree with you. This lockdown is making people act like they're back in primary school!
I'm tellinnggggggg!! Misssss I'm tellingggg!!

It's pathetic. Yet the same people will have had so many opportunities to report real crime/suspected abuse etc pass them by because they "don't want to get involved"...

They just enjoy the virtue signalling that's all.

You know what I hate more than snitching?

Virtue signalling

What I hate even more than virtue signalling?

Those who don’t get enough attention for their virtue signalling the first time round so have to go to mumsnet or Facebook or any other SM to get just that little bit of attention.

It’s difficult. There are 2 very different groups of reporters.

There are people genuinely upset and concerned by neighbours’ behaviour eg having a hot tub and booze party with 20 guests. That’s fine to report and the host is being an asshole.

And then there are the curtain twitching stasi, who number thousands. They need to get a grip and a life. They think they are in charge of the community and are actively waiting for something to report so they can feel important. Reporting people for leaving home when either they are a key worker, trying to deal with an autistic child, trying to pick up meds for the elderly, volunteering or stepping outside the guidelines in a vanishingly minor or insignificant way. These people are disgraceful and they ought to be spending their time volunteering if they are so fucking bored that their entertainment is curtain twitching and reporting. You can volunteer to support isolated people by phone even if unable to go out. Mind you, who would want support from the perfect stasi curtain twitchers. Think I’d rather cut my wrists.

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/04/13/tell-neighbours-breach-lockdown-rules-say-police/

slug

Was a different story just days ago..

Reporting people for leaving home when either they are a key worker, trying to deal with an autistic child,

And they have now reviewed the driving to ecversise guidance to allow people to drive their autistic children somewhere to exercise. So it's just spiteful Rseholes doing it.

I dont like the statement that people that Need to be outside may be harmed if you call the police. Purposely trying to paint all police as something the majority are not.

You know that people moaning against "snitching" are the ones who make up their own rules and pretend the current guidelines don't apply to them.

We know nothing of the sort. PP mentioned the curtain twitchers who are always at it - they're the ones who are out of control. Report a hot tub party - but be sure they don't all live together anyway.

For the twitchy reporter types, you might be interested in this: after the fall of the wall one of the things people who were a bit switched on did is run to the Stasi headquarters where they lived and go through the files on them. They took them home sometimes, or they just read them or whatever. And there were 2 reasons for doing that. Either they were Stasi victims and wanted to know who was responsible, fair enough. Or they were one of the Stasi snitches worried they'd be outed. And outed they were. And shunned and worse. (of course some senior Stasi took over senior positions in the new Germany but that's not my point).

Like after the war, black marketeers who were also profiteers and over zealous air raid wardens got their come-uppance. Because if there is something the British hold on to dearly it is revenge.

@MakeMineWithRhubarbJam

Ha! I might suggest it to him!

He can watch me and time me all he likes, I am unbothered.

I hate the word snitching and think only a certain type of person uses it.

What "certain type of person" uses it @watertorture ?

MogeatDog
When did the stricter rules come in due to rules not being followed?

Around here, I can make a list:
-all the national trusts that were originally free of access.
-a couple of the local fields were originally opened but people took the piss. People had to call the police too many times, now they are closed.
-car parks. There are plenty of places here that you can access by car, and walk for miles after without seeing anyone. There were also opened originally, just saw another one closed from today because of some twats who decided to have a barbecue!
-shops that tried to stay opened for emergency purchases, closed because too many morons tried to pretend paint was an emergency purchase for example.

I can go on...

The UK has the most relaxed lockdown of all, and still some people manage to spoil it for everyone.

@MogeatDog people were asked to keep social distancing, to work from home where possible, to only go out if essential. Many people ignored this, so they brought in the laws and enforced lockdown.

I’ve just had a right go at one of the mods for allowing these dumb corona threads to keep popping up.

Constant curtain twitchers and nosey bats making threads about what they ASSUME people are doing.

I’m so over it. And mumsnet have the cheek to talk about asking us to pay for a premium service ?
To read foolish threads that should be shut down because they keep going over the same thing...

Madness

The poster doesn't tell people NOT to report to the police. It tells them to think first. And the examples are for individuals whose circumstances the person reporting doesn't know.

It doesn't say 'don't report the 30 people having a barbecue' or the ten youths drinking beer behind the Scout hut.

Yep, I'm sure our neighbours think we're really dodgy - especially one neighbour that seems to be judge and jury and has been making snide comments about us not clapping (valid reasons for not doing so, but still).

DBIL moved in with us at the start. He only lives 5 mins away and wasn't supposed to, but he was round to celebrate a birthday before the lockdown when he and I developed the "isolate yourself" symptoms which ran into lockdown and when isolation was 14 day with symptoms.

We decided it was therefore more sensible for him to continue to stay with us (and it helps my anxiety massively that I know he's "safe") and he helps supervise/teach DS when I'm working as DH is full-time WFH in a key worker role.

However, we're both key workers in schools. I'm on reduced hours and on a rota so coming and going at all hours, and he's doing a mix of home working and in school (at odd hours as his school does breakfast and after school). However, due to parking restrictions here, his car is at his, so he leaves here on his bike, cycles to his home, and goes to work (and it lets him check his house).

It looks really suspicious but we are adhering to the guidelines!

@needaholidaynow are you talking about the shutting down of pubs and restaurants? IMO it was daft to implement social distancing and allow these places to stay open - talk about mixed messages - the Gov must have expected that not to work as much - as much as I criticise them, they are not that stupid! It was a gradual easing more than anything - they were always going to be necessary.