So what the fuck are Kate and Willy doing?

[RogueV]

Isn’t there a princess in Europe that’s now working as a HCA?

A queen somewhere in Asia cooking for the poor?

Harry and Meghan delivering meals?

Bet if Diana was here she’d be out doing everything in her power to help the ordinary folk 💪

@Outtedagain

'I dont care' isn't an opinion though is it? Its indifference.

Eddiemairswife - Driving delivery vans for Waitrose - Haha priceless.

Keep them coming!

Oh I see the jealous, bitter and envious argument has arrived. Oh goody.

For the poster with the ridiculous nonsense about communism - why is that a natural consequence of becoming a republic?

Anyone would think that a mature and sensible country wouldn't be capable of electing a head of state and then voting someone else in next time. Of course that doesn't happen anywhere else in the world.....oh, wait.

@Mamamia456

We have. Forfeiting sovereign grant. Food from the Duchy. Offering to open stately homes to raise money for relief when safe to do so. Kate making meals. Wills actually seeing through his threat to rejoin air ambulance. A personal donation.

You never answer these things. You just change the subject.

I don’t think we’d be better off without a RF, Goverment would always find other , meaningless , ways to spend that money.

In better times they do give us some good entertainment .
The Queen, is the Queen, We all admire her and find her fascinating she seems to belong to a different time! If she is gone, we lose what makes RF unique,
Charles , I like him, he is passionate about gardening , farming , environment and old houses , his princes trust does good things,
,people thought he was a bit weird when he was younger but he really addressed all these issues way before anyone else.
also like Camilla, she seems fun, always cheery .

But then Will and Kate they need to find their thing, otherwise they’d be completely pointless by the time Will is king.

@Leighhalfpennysthigh

It is the argument they rely on when they realise they have nothing. Its embarrassing.

Wolfgirrl - But you ask the same questions on every thread about the royals, I've already answered them on previous threads, but you don't like my answers.

I do care, It is just such a tiny amount, I consider them of such little importance.

BelleSausage

Wow, the envy on this thread.

Comrades, you are right. The only way is to share it all out. So everyone out all they have into a big pot and we can spread it equally.

You do know that there are countries that don't have a royal family but, also, aren't communist, right? And who seem to function pretty well.

And "envy" - it's just a word. Others may say "aspirational". Doubtless if somebody offered you a large amount of money, you'd turn it down.
Far better, for example, to pass it on to the queen maybe, tugging your forelock and saying, "Gaw bless yer, Marm. You need this more than I do".

I've worked for my money and I live quite comfortably. But I wouldn't say "no" if someone offered me a few hundred thousand (or whatever the royals' hourly rate is) to snip a ribbon and make a speech.

That was @Wolfgirrl

Sponging off the government obviously

Wow, the envy on this thread.

Envy, no. Disappointment and puzzlement that the tax-funded royal family has not stepped up during the worst pandemic since 1917. Begs the question, if they can't lead (if in name only), what are they there for? A few speeches and deliveries to hospitals/homes are mere tokenisms.
A 100 year old 'commoner' has put them to shame.

A PP mentioned the Beckhams. Nouveau riche celebs they might be but at least they earned their wealth.

@wolfgirl that's because there are no arguments for the royal family, so if there aren't, then why do we pay for them?

Royalists go round in circles with the same easily argued against points in every thread in this. ,Anne they should spend their time getting an education

A PP mentioned the Beckhams. Nouveau riche celebs they might be but at least they earned their wealth

They most certainly didn’t. And she’s now expecting the tax payer to foot the bill for her fashion company’s staff wages when just her handbag collection is worth £1.5 million. Now that’s real greed and entitlement.

And as for the envy argument - no I'm not. I'm very happy with the life I've got now. I have purpose in my life, self respect from money I've earned myself and the pride of building a company from scratch. I a, respected by those in my field and when people ask for my advice and input, it is because I am an expert and not because they are sycophants.

I'm not alone on here. Many many mumsnetters are like me.

And yet we pay for these pointless people who do nothing of any worth for our country.

Re the Beckhams... The displaying of unbelievable personal wealth while furloughing staff may be distasteful to you, but what do you mean they didn't earn their wealth?

You might think that they're disproportionately paid, which is fine, but they actually had to get out and hustle for it, definitely.

@Alsohuman

So are the royals greedy and entitled then? As their staff are paid by the taxpayer?

@alsohuman, can't say I know much about their business but didn't the Beckhams establish their own careers and brands themselves?
As opposed to the dear Royals who inherited their (immense) wealth and still get tax-funded support each year?

@Mamamia456

You've never answered them. You've talked about others things but not specifically the things I mentioned above. Why dont you just repeat them briefly?

I don't actually mind having the monarchy, mostly because a huge proportion of the public seem to want them so I guess that's democracy (the irony!).

I just think that all of them hastily swerving as far as possible to as many far-flung huge private country residences, then not doing much but the odd patronising pat on the head for others doing and risking much, much more, undermines their position as 'heads' of the realm.

If you want to be courted and feted and prance about wearing military uniform and oodles of medals, don't run away as fast as you can at the first sign of REAL trouble and then be upset that frankly, some wee health care worker on minimum wage is considered braver, tougher and more community-minded than you.

In the various political shenanigans of the autumn, the queen was clear she could do nothing, in the current human crisis they are clear they will do nothing.

As long as we are then clear that they are just pretty, pedigree pets whose only role is to dress up, drape themselves in sketchily earned military honours or dubiously mined and gifted hordes of jewels, and entertain the masses by showing themselves off to them in easier times, then we're all fine. Nothing to see here (which is lucky, as they're all hiding behind the sofas in drawing room number 3)

Just how is the immensely wealthy RF, putting their handout year after year for the SG, their staff paid for by the tax payer not ‘greedy and entitled’?

The mind boggles.

I see you VB’a handbag collection and raise you the Queen’s 7 BILLION pound jewellery collection. And while she doesn’t technically own all that, in all meaningful ways she does as she has the run of all of it for her entire lifetime.

Basically anyone who disagrees with the idea that monarchy are pointless will get ridiculed on this thread then?

Not if they come up with compelling reasons why they're not. So far we're still waiting.

And the Beckhams come from a working class and lower middle class background respectively.

They absolutely are self made.

They were lucky enough to have talents that were highly valued (in monetary terms) by the society they live in, but also great aptitude in marketing themselves to avail of all opportunities.

Leighhalfpenny - This is the Queen's daily schedule:

She starts the day with correspondence from the general public, she routinely receives 300 letters from the public every day. Some she reads and replies to herself, others she tells her members of staff how she would like them to be answered.

The Queen will then see 2 of her private secretaries with the daily quota of official papers and documents. A series of official meetings or audiences will often follow lasting 10-20 minutes. The Queen will then lunch privately. However the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh will often invite a dozen guests from a wide variety of backgrounds to lunch.

While undertaking engagements the Queen can sometimes visit as many as 3 or 4 venues before lunch per day.

In the afternoons the Queen often goes out on public engagements and prepares for each visit by briefing herself on who she will be meeting. She carries out around 430 engagements (including audiences) a year.

The afternoon finishes with a meeting of the privy Council with several government ministers.

On Wednesday evenings the Queen undertakes a weekly meeting with the prime minister usually at 6.30pm.

At 7.30pm à report of the day's parliamentary proceedings written by one of the government's whips arrives. The Queen always reads this the same evening.

Some evenings she will also attend events, galas, concerts etc in connection with charities of which she is patron.

So hardly just smiling and waving.

So hardly just smiling and waving.

She has dozens of minions running around doing all the donkey work. She doesn’t evemn run her own bath ffs.