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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think that neighbour was very rude?

81 replies

LonelyInLockdown · 16/04/2020 11:16

Last week I had a heating engineer in to mend my boiler. When he’d finished, he went outside onto the patio to write out his bill and he asked if I minded if he had a cigarette. I said I didn’t mind.

A short while later, after he’d left, my neighbour in the flat below the flat below mine came storming up to my door and shoved a jam jar containing a fag butt at me and began ranting about me smoking. I explained I didn’t smoke but tried to apologised for the engineer’s slatternly behaviour (I had no idea he had chucked his fag over the railings and am very cross about that) and said it wouldn’t happen again.

I say `try’ because as soon as he had shoved his jam jar into my hand he stormed off, refusing to listen to me so I was left speaking to his retreating back.

It was very distressing as I don’t know this man and in the year, he has lived in the ground floor flat he has never had any cause for complaint until now.

When you live on your own, especially in these lonely times, any unkindness is exaggerated and I am very distressed. While I could understand it if I made a habit of throwing rubbish onto his terrace, this is certainly not the case, just this one cigarette butt in a year.

Also standing close to me and handing me his personal items during the lockdown when we are meant to be socially distancing seems completely irrational.

I bumped into him yesterday and we said hello. I politely apologised again for the cigarette butt landing on his balcony but explained I was upset by what I considered to be this overreactive behaviour and he just stormed off again while I was trying to speak.

I suffer from bad anxiety as it is with a form of OCD called dermatillomania (skin picking), which has got worse. I know I should be able to shake this off but unfortunately, I am dwelling on it. I’m thinking of writing him a polite note to apologise again but also to explain that I found his behaviour threatening and upsetting and he mustn't come to my door again.

What would any of you do, if anything?

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HeartyGreenSalad · 16/04/2020 11:20

Yes, he was rude but I think it's your anxiety kicking in too
We are all stressed, please leave it and keep to pleasantries

Serenity45 · 16/04/2020 11:20

I wouldn't apologise again, you've already attempted to twice. I would perhaps just ignore he sounds like an ignorant twat. I know it's easy for someone else to say, but try not to waste any more headspace on him at what I imagine is already an anxious time for you.

Laaf80 · 16/04/2020 11:22

Sorry that you are suffering anxiety and OCD, your co situ is must be exacerbated by this situation.

Your neighbour is probably also suffering from the lock down, most of the country is. Maybe he is an arsehole, maybe he was just having a bad day. Small things seem bigger than they are.

If I were you I’d just ignore it, it’s done. I would continue to say hello and whatnot but wouldn’t mention it again verbally or in writing.

TheReluctantCountess · 16/04/2020 11:23

I can appreciate that you didn’t like him handing you the jam jar, but he had to pick up a fag butt, which had been in someone’s mouth.

But, at this time, people are tense, so try not to worry about it too much. It’ll blow over.

Simonsspikyhair · 16/04/2020 11:23

YABU. He said hello and then you brought it up again when you could have left it. Don’t write any notes. Just leave it.

clareOclareO · 16/04/2020 11:26

YABU. He gets some twat chucking a fag butt down into his garden and now you're the victim?!

Aloe6 · 16/04/2020 11:26

You can’t do anymore than you have already - I wouldn’t try and apologise again, just keep it to pleasantries when you see him again.

LonelyInLockdown · 16/04/2020 11:27

I’m sure if I’d been a big burly man he would not have done this.
Yes I shall probably ignore and keep a wide berth.

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ScribblingMilly · 16/04/2020 11:27

I think, rather than keep trying to get him to prioritise your feelings, consider what his might be and leave him alone, giving him chance to calm down. You say he said hello in a civil way the next day so best to keep going in that direction. Everyone is stressed at the moment.

Bluntness100 · 16/04/2020 11:28

Definitely ignore op. Don’t keep it going my apologising a third time by writing a letter. It’s done now.

Sally872 · 16/04/2020 11:31

Ignore him. He may be stressed too. Either way his behaviour is not acceptable but it is his issue not yours and if he doesnt realise it is unacceptable a letter wont make him figure it out.

Try and forget about it. Flowers

user1483387154 · 16/04/2020 11:33

You need to let it go.
I would not have been happy about cigarette butts in my garden but would not have handled it as he did.

AmelieTaylor · 16/04/2020 11:40

He was a jerk.

It was A cigarette butt. I'm very much an anti smoker but jesus wept, it's one cigarette butt. He needs to chill the hell out.

I know how you feel being spoken to you like that, especially when you live on your own, but try not to let him get to you.

You've apologused twice, it's time to let it go now or you'll be the one making a much bigger deal out of it than it was

🌷look after YOUR mental health

staceyflack · 16/04/2020 11:43

He was a knob. Over reaction entirely. But he might have anxiety / issues too. Sounds like it.. if he can't listen / storms off. I understand you feeling upset - I had a pig of a neighbour once, who I'm sure pushed his luck because I was a young woman living alone. Let it drop now though - you said sorry, multiple times and it wasn't even really your fault. Distract yourself now... move on. Obsessing, will make it much bigger than it actually is. Your discomfort will fade. 💐

LonelyInLockdown · 16/04/2020 11:44

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Honeyroar · 16/04/2020 11:44

I wouldn’t write the note. You made your point today. Even if he stormed off a bit of what you said might have filtered into his pea brain. But yes, give him a wide berth. Your heating engineer was out of order, but it wasn’t your fault and you didn’t deserve your neighbour’s venom!

LonelyInLockdown · 16/04/2020 11:46

Whoops. Phone posted that from my pocket 🙄
Thanks for your replies folks.
I feel thoroughly expunged and will take no further action.

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WhentheRabbitsWentWild · 16/04/2020 11:52

He absolutely over reacted and I feel you are right in that he wouldn't have acted that way to a big burly man .

Leave it to Hello again as that appeared to work before you brought it up . I get how you felt but let it go .

onanothertrain · 16/04/2020 11:55

Overreaction from you both. Why would you write him a letter and keep going on about it?

TerrorWig · 16/04/2020 12:01

I would do nothing, because I would have forgotten about it. But I don’t have anxiety

I’m not sure how you can overcome what you’re feeling, but try and leave it to rest. There is nothing you can do, it doesn’t matter anyway. Flowers

Rabblemum · 16/04/2020 12:06

My boyfriend smokes on my balcony all the time, I thought if it’s your balcony you could let people smoke on it. Your guest did nothing illegal and your neighbour is overreacting. On the other hand your guest shouldn’t have chucked the fag but away and you should have offered an ashtray of some sort.

Lockdown is boring, stressful and some people aren’t going to cope. The man is probably stressed so forgive him. I suffer from PTSD and anxiety so I know how you can think yourself into a frenzy over little things, I try to do lots exercise as if I get physically exhausted I don’t have the energy to overthink, try this if you can.

CaptSkippy · 16/04/2020 12:07

You can shove a letter into his mailbox explaining the situation and also inform him that you will not be accepting anymore objects from him while the lockdown is going on.

I would return the jar to his door.

Ponoka7 · 16/04/2020 12:12

Of you write the note it will escalate things. You haven't got the right to tell him not to come to your door, if you've dropped something on to his balcony. You have, but he doesn't have to take any notice.

You're turning yourself into the victim when you aren't.

MeganBacon · 16/04/2020 12:14

Don't keep apologising, there's just no point with some people. You've done what you can. Try not to let it bother you. You've taken on board too much responsibility for this.

ravenmum · 16/04/2020 12:14

Did he have a sunshade up? A cigarette falling into your balcony from above can burn a hole in your property, of course it's annoying - even just one.

If I'd been your neighbour I'd have been a) pissed off by the cigarette butt and b) worked up about having to go to a neighbour to complain (makes me nervous). I'd have been polite (I hope), but you don't know what other problems this man might have that are making him less than polite at the moment.

Best thing is probably to assume you caught him at a bad moment and leave the guy alone until things blow over. Just try to look mildly friendly if you see him, and in a while you could even start some nice comments about the weather or whatever and develop a friendlier atmosphere.

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