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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think that neighbour was very rude?

81 replies

LonelyInLockdown · 16/04/2020 11:16

Last week I had a heating engineer in to mend my boiler. When he’d finished, he went outside onto the patio to write out his bill and he asked if I minded if he had a cigarette. I said I didn’t mind.

A short while later, after he’d left, my neighbour in the flat below the flat below mine came storming up to my door and shoved a jam jar containing a fag butt at me and began ranting about me smoking. I explained I didn’t smoke but tried to apologised for the engineer’s slatternly behaviour (I had no idea he had chucked his fag over the railings and am very cross about that) and said it wouldn’t happen again.

I say `try’ because as soon as he had shoved his jam jar into my hand he stormed off, refusing to listen to me so I was left speaking to his retreating back.

It was very distressing as I don’t know this man and in the year, he has lived in the ground floor flat he has never had any cause for complaint until now.

When you live on your own, especially in these lonely times, any unkindness is exaggerated and I am very distressed. While I could understand it if I made a habit of throwing rubbish onto his terrace, this is certainly not the case, just this one cigarette butt in a year.

Also standing close to me and handing me his personal items during the lockdown when we are meant to be socially distancing seems completely irrational.

I bumped into him yesterday and we said hello. I politely apologised again for the cigarette butt landing on his balcony but explained I was upset by what I considered to be this overreactive behaviour and he just stormed off again while I was trying to speak.

I suffer from bad anxiety as it is with a form of OCD called dermatillomania (skin picking), which has got worse. I know I should be able to shake this off but unfortunately, I am dwelling on it. I’m thinking of writing him a polite note to apologise again but also to explain that I found his behaviour threatening and upsetting and he mustn't come to my door again.

What would any of you do, if anything?

OP posts:
Devlesko · 16/04/2020 15:18

Stop bloody apologising to the wanker.
It's done with now, it wasn't even your problem.
I'd have offered the number of the workman and told him to complain to him, his jam jar would be hurled at the twat.

cultkid · 16/04/2020 15:20

Oh babe I'm sorry 💔💔
Don't do anything else fuck him
You're an adult you don't owe him anything and you don't need to apologise for anyone else's actions xxx

CSIblonde · 16/04/2020 15:26

You have both over reacted. Assume the jar was a ferns thing re it being in someone's mouth. Sending a note makes you seem obsessive. Lockdown is taking a toll on a lot of people mentally, people are frazzled re being cooped & worried about getting sick, so their fuses are shorter.

CSIblonde · 16/04/2020 15:27

*Germs not ferns. And cooped up.

billy1966 · 16/04/2020 15:31

OP, your neighbour is an absolute pig.

You have lived there for a year.

It was patently obvious that is wasn't your fag end.

He's just a ignorant pig who wanted woman to scream at.

Do NOT approach him again.
Do NOT apologise again.

He wouldn't have approached a man like that.

If it makes you feel better, report him to 101.

Bully's like him need to be reported.

They are big shouter's around women.

I wouldn't look in his direction again.

I also wouldn't hesitate to report him.

It was clearly a once off by a visitor to your flat.

He could have put a note through your door to bring it to your attention.

That's what a normal pissed off person would do.

Flowers
TheWordmeister · 16/04/2020 15:31

I can understand his disgust at the butt. Bringing to you in a jam jar though is the act of a nutter.

I’d not bother speaking to him again.

CallMeRachel · 16/04/2020 15:42

@Lunalula83

Anxiety disease strikes again

Would you care to explain your post??? Hmm

BreatheAndFocus · 16/04/2020 15:44

He was rude and over-reacted - especially going to your door. But you don’t need to apologise again. You’ve done that, it’s ok. X

CallMeRachel · 16/04/2020 15:47

YABU. He gets some twat chucking a fag butt down into his garden and now you're the victim?!

@Clare0clare0 wtf ? Victim?!

She had nothing to do with it!! Are you on glue?

This mad twat broke social distancing in a pandemic to hand her a glass jar with a strangers fav butt inside!

Op, ignore him. It's nothing to do with you where the fag butt ended up, nothing whatsoever. You had no reason to be sorry and I'm fact mad twat neighbour should be the one apologising for approaching you for something so ridiculous during a lockdown.

f83mx · 16/04/2020 15:49

I don’t think you should have apologised in first place - wasn’t you smoking- why did he think it was?! Leave it - he sounds unhinged

Kraejka · 16/04/2020 15:56

Ridiculous overreaction over a fag butt. A fag butt lands on his property - annoying but not a big deal really. If it was happening regularly then I can see his point - that would be well out of order. I think if 3 or 4 fag butts turned up then he should go and mention it to the neighbour, but politely of course.
What is wrong with people that they go storming round to the neighbour with one fag butt in a jar?

OP, you've tried to apologize twice. He's still storming off. He's got a problem. I appreciate it's hard with your anxiety but try to forget about this incident now. You dealt with it appropriately. There's nothing more you could have done. If someone asks to smoke on your patio again you can tell them that's fine but they must put the fag butt in a bin or ash tray or whatever - not flick it onto the neighbour's property.
Do not write a note. Don't go round to apologize. There is absolutely no need.
Next time you see him, just greet him with a hello and move on. No need to explain you were upset by his overreaction or anything.

WhyCantIThinkOfAGoodOne · 16/04/2020 15:57

He was a knob, don't bother apologising just let it go.

Purpleartichoke · 16/04/2020 16:09

I wouldn’t do anything.

Don’t let anyone smoke on your patio in the future. The neighbors are too close for that to be acceptable.

Cissyandflora · 16/04/2020 16:14

Sorry but I’m on your neighbour’s side. You’re making this all about you. It was rude of your visitor. Disgusting behaviour. Neighbour is understandably upset. You still want it to be about how it makes you feel? You’d not want to live next to me because I would have been less than impressed with you.

Cissyandflora · 16/04/2020 16:16

Oh and do we need anymore - oh unhinged. On glue. Is there a batshit crazy yet?
OP this was your fault. You should not have tried to complain that the neighbour made you feel bad. Just apologise and don’t let it happen again. It’s very rude.

LonelyInLockdown · 16/04/2020 17:34

@Cissyandflora are you on glue? 😃
Feel sorry for your neighbours 🙄
I came on here to share something that was troubling me - no need to be so judgemental.

Many thanks to all for enlightening replies. I’m not going to mention it again to twattish neighbour; he’s fallen out with someone else so at least it’s not just me. I hope he is not missing his jam jar.

That’s the trouble with gaited ‘communities’, they are hotbeds of dissatisfaction and frustration. My neighbour next to be told me she is going to move as she is being bullied by someone else. I reckon I won’t be far behind her.

OP posts:
StormTreader · 16/04/2020 17:34

Things get crazy in lockdown - he probably saw the start of fag ends starting to be thrown over into his only outside space every day for the rest of the lockdown.
Just don't throw anything over like you already aren't, and everything will probably be fine.

WhyCantIThinkOfAGoodOne · 16/04/2020 18:22

@Cissyandflora finding a one off fag butt in your garden is annoying but the neighbour's reaction was massively over the top and was totally unwarranted. OP didn't throw the fag butt there and has apologised for the fact her visitor did so without her knowledge she shouldn't be abused for a simple mistake that was barely her fault.

TealWater · 16/04/2020 22:07

@Cissyandflora Did you even actually read the OP's post? It was NOT her fault!!

nocoolnamesleft · 16/04/2020 22:13

Your neighbour was nothing like as big a twat as the arsehole who dropped a fag butt on his land.

Gtugccbjb · 16/04/2020 22:17

Fuck him and yes you are right people treat Dominguez women very different to men or couples. Gutless. Don’t give it anymore thought. If you behave like that you’re a psychotic. Don’t waste brain space on psycho’s.

Gtugccbjb · 16/04/2020 22:18

~ Single

Dieu · 16/04/2020 22:21

He's a dick. Try not to let it get you down. You sound lovely Thanks

redwinefine · 16/04/2020 22:57

YABU. It was a worker in your property. You brought it up again. Why play the victim anymore. Just forget about it.

WhyCantIThinkOfAGoodOne · 17/04/2020 00:06

Your neighbour was nothing like as big a twat as the arsehole who dropped a fag butt on his land.

Disagree with this. The idiot who dropped the fag butt was obnoxious but the neighbour was worse.