To clarify the one hour of exercise 'rule'

[Itstheprinciple]

I've seen this mentioned on so many posts and I've seen people clarify it within the post but I've not seen a specific post about it. I thought this could help people who seem confused about what is 'allowed'.

Michael Gove was asked on the Andrew Marr show what he considered to be reasonable exercise. This is his response:

"I would have thought that for most people, a walk of up to an hour, or a run of 30 minutes or a cycle ride of between that, depending on their level of fitness is appropriate."

So it is not a hard and fast rule or law. No one is standing with a stopwatch as it gets to 59 mins. It's guidance and it will vary between individuals as Mr Gove says himself.

I haven't seen it in the media
It's my fucking job
Day in day out
To coordinate stuff like that
I'm not making it up
Jeeze

People might find these police guidelines useful - it defines what reasonable is

www.college.police.uk/What-we-do/COVID-19/Documents/What-constitutes-a-reasonable-excuse.pdf

It even includes moving house and going to the allottment

And Hooves there are a lot of volunteers and agencies that could help you

Help me with what?

hobnobsaremyfave

To co ordinate what?

You say you're shielding
That you can't /don't want to go out
There is support with
Shopping
Medication collections
Regular telephone contact to prevent isolation and support mental health
Support to keep good physical health whilst unable to go out
Exercise and falls prevention
Online contact with medical professionals
Etc
Etc

But you don't want help
You just want to bitch and berate

And there are some excellent telephone counselling services currently on offer to replace face to face contact

It's a shame MN doesn't have an Ignore User facility. In its absence, there's this:

Support to keep good physical health whilst unable to go out
Exercise and falls prevention
Online contact with medical professionals

Great. Can you give me details of these then please?

Plus advice on how to get a supermarket delivery slot?

Here's some official clarification

www.college.police.uk/What-we-do/COVID-19/Documents/What-constitutes-a-reasonable-excuse.pdf

I hesitate to enter the fray again, but if you genuinely are shielded then the the supermarkets all have numbers to ring. As well as there being slots if you’re persistent and look at different times.

There are Morrison’s boxes. M& S boxes. Local shops- try the Snappy Shopper app. Facebook pages with people offering to help. Never mind that I think you said your husband works so could go to the shop.

You should also go into your garden. You will not catch the virus there and some sun or fresh air will make you feel better.

I hesitate to enter the fray again, but if you genuinely are shielded then the the supermarkets all have numbers to ring. As well as there being slots if you’re persistent and look at different times.

No, they don't. They might do if they have slots available in your area but there are no slots available here. I've been trying frequently with all four supermarkets, plus Iceland, plus Amazon. See, this is the issue - people assume help is there. It isn't necessarily.

Never mind that I think you said your husband works so could go to the shop.

My husband is going out shopping. It's not ideal because he has asthma so is increasing his risk but then he has to work anyway, so he's potentially exposed at that. But I haven't been asking about shopping.

You should also go into your garden. You will not catch the virus there

Our gardens are small and my neighbours are in their garden all day. Three of them live there and they've got their daughter, son in law and grand child staying - in a three bedroom house. The garden has become an extra living space. I'm barely six feet away from them if I sit in the garden. How can you be sure I can't catch it?

Ok, I knew really there would be a host of reasons why all these ideas were shite 😂😂

Crack on in shielding misery then

Mascotte, and the one that potentially could have worked - Facebook pages with people offering to help - was ignored.

It's not a host of reasons. And what ideas? You said get shopping delivered - there are no slots. That's fact, not me making excuses. Check the threads on here. Loads of people in same boat. Plus my husband is doing the shopping, that isn't what I'm particularly struggling with.

Then you said get in the garden - I've explained why that is difficult. I wrote the same thing on here yesterday so I'm not just making rebutting your suggestion. It isn't an excuse, it's a reality of living in a terraced house, with the garage in the back garden - they are small. Perfectly adequate normally when neighbours are either at work or it doesn't matter if they are out there. Not good if everyone wants to be in their gardens and you have to stay more than six feet away from them.

Sorry that I don't live in a huge house with sweeping gardens, just to make you feel better.

If someone lives in a flat do you say the same to them?

@hearhooves. Have you been on your local Facebook pages to ask for help with shopping?

There should be a COVID support group you can join. But you have to identify yourself and ask for whatever it is you need help with.

Mascotte, and the one that potentially could have worked - Facebook pages with people offering to help - was ignored.

Where on Facebook? Seriously? What can Facebook offer?

In those circumstances, ideally the neighbours should be considerate and not be outside absolutely all day - but do they have any idea that you want to be outside too but aren't comfortable with a 6ft separation?

CuriousaboutSamphire

I'm not sure why people are particularly fixating on shopping - my dh is going out every two weeks to do our shopping and a neighbour's. It isn't great but it is what it is. I don't really need, nor have said on here that I need, help with shopping.

However, we have looked on behalf of our neighbour who does need it and there hasn't been anything. There are a couple of people who have offered to get bits - but they are only prepared to pick up odd things, say bread or milk, of prescriptions. Not a full shop. Plus, how can she pay them?

We have been looking for my mum's neighbour because she is in her 80s (as are they) and now her phone has stopped working. No family at all. We can't find any help. We have no way of communicating with her other than my parents going to get house, or she keeps knocking at my parents, and they are isolating. Where, seriously, is all of this help?

In those circumstances, ideally the neighbours should be considerate and not be outside absolutely all day - but do they have any idea that you want to be outside too but aren't comfortable with a 6ft separation?

Probably not, no.

This is for anyone else interested not those who can’t be helped:

I have got two sets of elderly relatives a full food shop via local Facebook pages (separate areas far from me)

I’ve also got them Morrison’s slots through internet slog.

Also a Morrison’s box which came two days after ordering.

Morrison’s is now also doing a thing for vulnerable customers where you ring your local store and order and pay contactless on delivery.

I’ve also used a farm shop place to get them essentials.

And this Snappy Shopper app where you put in your postcode and smaller convenience stores deliver that very day!

But you have to identify yourself and ask for whatever it is you need help with.

And the help that I need is to be able to get outside, to get some exercise and most importantly to be able to see my children. Is there a Facebook group to help with that?

Morrison’s is now also doing a thing for vulnerable customers where you ring your local store and order and pay contactless on delivery.

Yes, from a list of about thirty things. Not suitable when you have to eat a gluten free, no carb diet ( not made up. Have said it on here before and is prescribed by the hospital). I've looked at it - there is no choice. So, only Ariel washing liquid, only ready salted crisps etc. Fine for some people, but is not workable.

I'm not sure why people are particularly fixating on shopping

I suppose for many people it's their main concern - literally putting food on the table for their families. And it's likely to be by far their most risky activity in terms of social distancing. We're very fortunate to be able to manage without going to the shops at all at the moment.

Anyway... shopping is rather OT. What do people think of the college of police link I posted below re some clarifications of what's reasonable or not?

@Mascotte

Just checked snappy shopper. Have attached a picture of the post code search before you accuse me again of not wanting help. See, not everyone is having the experience you have.