To clarify the one hour of exercise 'rule'

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I've seen this mentioned on so many posts and I've seen people clarify it within the post but I've not seen a specific post about it. I thought this could help people who seem confused about what is 'allowed'.

Michael Gove was asked on the Andrew Marr show what he considered to be reasonable exercise. This is his response:

"I would have thought that for most people, a walk of up to an hour, or a run of 30 minutes or a cycle ride of between that, depending on their level of fitness is appropriate."

So it is not a hard and fast rule or law. No one is standing with a stopwatch as it gets to 59 mins. It's guidance and it will vary between individuals as Mr Gove says himself.

Yes, MOVE house, not go on a jolly to your holiday home

Totally agree.

I haven't read the full thread, however I was screamed at by somebody today in the car park at my flat.

I live in a multi story with no outdoor space, I have a 3 year old who everyday I have been driving the 7 min drive to the closest park area where we walk/scooter round for 45 min and come during my "lunch" hour as I'm working from home

If we were to walk that 7 min we wouldn't get there and back in that time at it's all uphill / main road. I know this isn't strictly the rules but what would be my other options ? I couldn't let her run up and down the main road into the path of cars

I think there needs to be a degree of common sense / sympathy for people

I know this isn't strictly the rules

It's been made clear that you are allowed to drive a short way to get to where you can exercise. The person who screamed at you was wrong.

I see lots of old people out and about here, either shopping, walking down my road or in the park. I can understand that many old people can't cope with online shopping but I also suspect many like to go to the shops to get out. My df is like that as is my 85 year old uncle. It's actually starting to piss me off because my own family are trying hard to do the right thing in order to protect the vulnerable. My dcs have had their lives disrupted for that reason and you wonder what's the point when many elderly don't seem to have changed their routine.

They get their shopping via the 1m who volunteered, relatives or neighbours to do it for them.

Do they? I'm shielded and my neighbour is shielded - we can't get anyone to get our shopping.

My parents are both vulnerable - luckily my sister is getting their shopping but their neighbour, who is very elderly, has no family and can't get any help. Now her phone has gone wrong so she keeps knocking at my parents door, expecting them to help. How can they though when they are isolating? So, where are all of these volunteers? Certainly not in my area.

Yes, MOVE house, not go on a jolly to your holiday home.

I don't have a holiday home. If I were to relocate somewhere much quieter then it would be moving. I'd have to rent because I wouldn't be able to sell my house right now but why should I be condemned to God knows how long shut inside my house and not able to go out?

If other people are allowed to be selfish and go.out as often as they like or for as long as they like, without caring about how it affects others than why can't I do what is best for me, without caring about how it affects others?

Those of you who are going out lots every day, how do you think you would be affected if you had to stay inside? Not even for a few weeks but for months, with no end in sight?

The actual law doesn't restrict time or number of exercise sessions
or shopping trips

The police however ...... seem to be enforcing what they think the law should be
with handcuffs and threats of pepper spray

So what you can do depends on how pro-active / sensible your local cop shop is

If I were to relocate somewhere much quieter then it would be moving.

Which is fine. Is this what you're planning to do? Sounds like a good idea since you're so obviously miserable about living in a built up area.

Thank you for this. DS is at risk of constipation so he and I go for a walk every day if possible.

If other people are allowed to be selfish and go.out as often as they like or for as long as they like, without caring about how it affects others than why can't I do what is best for me, without caring about how it affects others?

People who live in the middle of nowhere going out for a 3 hour walk is highly unlikely to affect others, as you've been told repeatedly. It's not going to extend the lockdown, and it doesn't mean they don't care about others.

If other people are allowed to be selfish and go.out as often as they like or for as long as they like, without caring about how it affects others than why can't I do what is best for me, without caring about how it affects others

You are allowed to move house. So if you want to rent somewhere else and move from your current house, why not?

If you plan to relocate there.

I’m obeying the rules, i am very lucky to be able to do so

If i see next door NOT obeying the rules I’m not going to think ‘well if they aren’t doing it neither am i’

Quite obviously the more people obeying the rules the better, but in some cases i appreciate that this may not be possible

People who live in the middle of nowhere going out for a 3 hour walk is highly unlikely to affect others, as you've been told repeatedly.

Oh right. So it's only people who live in the middle of nowhere who are doing this then? Did they ship all of the selfish people out of towns and cities before lockdown happened? They must have missed some of the people who live near me then because I am seeing the same people walking backwards and forwards multiple times a day, not to mention the children playing out in the street.

I was teasing dd and ds the other day about the "one type" of exercise.
To go for his skateboard ride (next to me, walking) he had to walk across the lawn.
So was that 2 forms of exercise?
Same with dd and her bike
Ds us a teen and very bored and trying a joke fight about everything!

My usual exercise is a bit of cycling with the kids occasionally, swimming or kayaking.

I’m desperate to get out on the river, but even people I know who live on the riverside aren’t kayaking, despite it being classed as exercise and ideal social distancing.

Not because the local barge owners aren’t grassing up anyone who uses the water (they are!) and not because the various rivers trusts aren’t issuing no useage notices (they are!) but because it just doesn’t seem fair that we can go off and mess about on the river for our exercise, when other people can’t play their usual tennis, golf, football or whatever sport.

Oh right. So it's only people who live in the middle of nowhere who are doing this then? Did they ship all of the selfish people out of towns and cities before lockdown happened? They must have missed some of the people who live near me then because I am seeing the same people walking backwards and forwards multiple times a day, not to mention the children playing out in the street.

You have been wittering on about how unfair it is that people in the country go out for longer walks. I’m responding to that.

But if your curtain twitching is revealing city dwellers going out for several walks a day, are you saying that it isn’t possible to maintain a safe distance by doing so?

I think Hooves is so bitter and determined for everyone to be as stressed and miserable as she is that what she Sees when she looks out of the window is the whole world being oh so mean and having soooo much fun
Wheras in fact what is going On is people going about their normal lives and the vast majority of them doing so within the rules
I get that the world looks like a fearful bustling place when you've hidden away for a while even when it is significantly quieter than it normally is
I commented yesterday that a road I crossed was busier than I was expecting -there were 3 cars at 6pm. This road is usually bumper to bumper at that time
But in hooves world everyone is partying just to spoil things for her

But if your curtain twitching is revealing city dwellers going out for several walks a day, are you saying that it isn’t possible to maintain a safe distance by doing so?

It's hardly curtain twitching. My living room overlooks the street so whilst I'm sitting here I can see everyone walking past. My ring doorbell is also alerting me to the fact!! Yes, I'm saying here that it isn't possible to maintain safe distancing. The pavements are not wide enough to pass people without being closer than two metres. There are groups of children playing outside constantly which is adding to the congestion and a park just up the road, which I can see from a bedroom window, which is very busy. There is no way that I could risk going outside, if someone was to properly explain the risk to me ie I do not understand why people who are shielding have been told to not leave their homes. What exactly is the risk? Is it a risk of getting within two metres of someone - so if I don't is it safe to go out? Is it that two metres is reasonably safe, but not absolute, so actually I need to maintain a greater distance? If so, what? Or is it that there is a possibility of the virus remaining in the air and so even if there is no one around some risk remains? But nowhere can you find answers to these questions. It seems such a Draconian measures that they have taken that there must be a very good reason behind it, but what?

So, in the absence of someone explaining it to me I can't take the chance of going out when I'm going to be only three feet away from someone or, at times, brushing shoulders with them.

hobnobsaremyfave

Clearly, you don't get anything about my situation.

So go out then, Hear! No one is locking you in. Your home is not a prison.

Those of you who are going out lots every day, how do you think you would be affected if you had to stay inside? Not even for a few weeks but for months, with no end in sight?

I don't. I have a lot of other issues to concern me just now. That's how it is in life. Tbh, I probably wouldn't do it. I'd rather take the risk. I've always been very athletic and love the outdoors. Even the day after major surgery on one my knees, I was back doing chin ups off the end of my dining table, doing physio, etc. I do work out indoors as well, but I go outside every day, even if it's at night.

hooves where do you live?

Because you worked in the worst supermarket in the country. Your streets are full of the worst people. People letting their kids play out all day. Crowding pavements. Neighbours having her togethers.

Since, that's not representative of the country, I cant help wonder where all this is happening.

hooves where do you live?

My guess is

No One Cares About Me Street
Everyone-is-awful Town
Selfish-shire

And Hooves there are a lot of volunteers and agencies that could help you
If you pm'd me where you are I could probably with about an hours work possibly less get you sorted with shopping etc
But I don't think you want help
I don't think you want solutions
And I don't think where you live is anywhere near as bad as you portrayed

it just doesn’t seem fair that we can go off and mess about on the river for our exercise, when other people can’t play their usual tennis, golf, football or whatever sport.

Now that I can't enjoy most of my usual exercise (gym, pool and dancing) I'd much rather you were off canoeing on the river where I can't go, than making the local streets and green spaces where I go out to exercise even busier than they are already!

I live in a London borough.

Sorry if you don't believe me. Read around other threads on here plenty of people having the same experiences as me.

I don't know where you all think this "help" is. Seems to me that because you've seen it in the media you are assuming it's the truth. But like people on here who are adamant that shopping delivery slots are available to all vulnerable people, as well as those shielding. They simply refuse to believe that's not the case.