To be fed up of the "am I allowed?" threads

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No, you're not allowed to go for a drive because your PFB only naps in the car. Nor are you allowed to sit and eat on a bench because you're pregnant, or go to your DM's if you stand 2m from the door.

What is it that people aren't getting? It's like they think that they are the exception to the very simple rules, and it's doing my head in.

Obey the guidelines ideally, but if you don't then don't come on here and ask for validation that your situation is soooo different to everyone else's, when any idiot can see that you're in the wrong.

I am more fed up with the ones like this to be honest, spreading vitriol for no reason other than self gratification.

I think some people are interpreting the guidelines too literally. I saw a poster being told that she couldn't stand in the driveway and talking through the door to her parents after dropping off their shopping.
I also read on another thread of some disgusting woman whose neighbour had been widowed and threw a hissy fit because her daughter and two sons had gathered at the house to comfort her and grieve. She called the police and they were fined.
Both the police officer concerned and the neighbour should have a long hard look at themselves.

Sorry the woman thre a hissy fit not the bereaved neighbour.

I walked for 5k this morning. I combined it with a trip to a small food shop to buy the food we need for today. I live in London in the second most affected borough in the country. All of my walk was along streets of terraced and semi detatched houses, no parks or countryside at all. I saw at least 4 or 5 probably more examples of friends/family/neighbours chatting to each other from the pavement or front gate to people standing in their doorways. I stopped to talk to people I know slightly (they stood on one pavement and I stood across the road on the other pavement). Did my heart good to see so many people looking out for each other and caring about each other. Around here it's quite busy so you have to cross the road to the other pavement or walk in the middle of the road to avoid joggers getting too close to other people. But everyone smiles and says hello. It's good.

Well it's not surprising people are confusedwith the amount of bullshit "rules" people have made up, and spout them out as fact.

Threads like this and goady sanctimonious wankers like the op are worse

OP it's ok you're so speshul and quarantining ohhhh so much better than everyone else

or go to your DM's if you stand 2m from the door.

Like this one. Why is this not ok. This is social distancing. Why is it OK for me to go for a wekks work of shopping and stand in in line 2 metres away from people and then have to dodge all the workers in the shops, but I can't go to my mums front garden and talk to her from the gate?

Weeks worth, not wekks work.

I honestly think that these super quarantineers think that they will make themselves somehow immune from Covid and therefore those that do catch it somehow "deserve it"
It's vile to be honest

I do think people looking for validation on here are on a hiding to nothing . Lots.of.people on here think getting online deliveries is immoral unless you are in the shielded group or very elderly. I have continued to book online deliveries when I can and have used a variety of local food delivery options. It hasn't been easy but combining this with a Brexit- stockpile which was done before Christmas has meant that DH and I have not been inside a single food shop for nearly a month. This combined with the fact that both DH and I can work from home and that we have no vulnerable relatives we have to shop for ( all our parents are dead) means we have a good chance of avoiding catching this for a while. I am in the vulnerable group but not shielded but I am not going to give up online deliveries if I can get them. I really don't care what anyone says.

I am doing everything I can so that I or my family don't catch it until we have some anti viral treatments ( ie drugs not necessarily a vaccine). There are a lot of trials of antiviral drugs happening and.we should have some results within a couple of months. I am.waiting for those and hopefully some sort of treatment being available. Even if it not a guaranteed cure at least catching it when a treatment is available gives you an even better chance of survival . This should be sooner than a vaccine is available, or at least that is my exit plan. Alternatively , I will do all I can to.continue this way of.living, even if it is for 18 months until a vaccine is available

I don't however make any judgement on anyone shopping or driving or exercising ( even if they drive to it) or sitting on benches or walking in parks, or talking to family from 2 m away. Everyone is doing what works for them and dealing with their own circumstances. I don't even think driving to a.second home is that bad and can understand why people do it , if they isolate when there

The only people I find unbelievable are those having parties or large social occasions.

@ChicChicChicChiclana that's what I don't understand. My parents live 5 mins walk from us. We have been passing each other's houses on our walks and stopping for a chat at a distance. I don't see anything wrong with that. We've not been anywhere else other than DH goes to the supermarket once a week or less.

Yes, hobnobs. Most of the superquarantineers are going to get it. Hopefully they won't be expecting help from friends and neighbours when they actually are totally banned from leaving their house for 14+ days.

When we were in this position our friends from down the road did shopping for us to supplement our deliveries and would quite often stop on the front path for a chat and an update on family health. Because they care about us. According to op, the police should have been called to send them the 200m home.

Ah OP. What’s happened in your life that makes you so desperate to be superior to others - and get approval for it?

MN is genuinely one of the worse places on the Internet right now, especially if you already have anxiety.

Absolutely. Lots of lonely people suffering from acute anxiety in the same place whipping one another into a terrified frenzy.

*And the risk that the person who had to shop for the ingredients and the delivery driver undertook don't matter then? Only the risk that you might have been exposed to?

Same as with people ordering from Amazon and the like. Obviously the health of the warehouse workers don't matter because you are playing Lady Bountiful and performing this selfless act only to keep the economy ticking over*

People like you will be the first to whinge during the inevitable recession that follows this lockdown.

I just wish that people would stop thinking that it’s ok for them !! My sister lives in a beautiful house with a garden that we can only dream of in amazing countryside...today her and partner drove to their local golf course ... ie 15 miles for a fucking walk 🤔

I mean, this post is wrong. The rules and guidelines actually specifically give a bunch of circumstances under which you SHOULD visit your mother - to deliver food or medicine, or to provide care if she's vulnerable, for example.

The government guidelines also say that in order to manage a significant health condition, including 'individuals with learning disabilities or autism' who 'require specific exercise' you can leave your home more than once a day or 'travel beyond your local area'. So, yeah, under some conditions you do leave your home more often or travel more frequently.

And those are guidelines are also not even the actual law. They are recommendations. The Health Protection Regulations 2020 actually Don't say you can only exercise say once a day or specify what type of activity you can do. It says you can only leave your home for good reason, one of which is given as 'exercise on your own or with members of your own household' (except in Wales where it is once per day).

Not saying this to pick a fight with everyone on MN about whether you should go outside. Mostly just posting to point out that it isn't as simple as the OP is making out, lots of people are reasonably confused (including the OP) and no one is stupid for being unsure. Also agree that MN is the absolute worst place to come to seek help or reassurance.

I just find it quite arrogant of people to assess the level of risk based only on themselves.

I find it arrogant that people here have decided businesses which the government have deemed ok to be open, in line with the expert advice they have been given, should not be used because they present too big a risk.

Make your own choices. It’s not up to you to make choices for others.

More sanctimonious bollocks from the curtain twitchers. This pandemic has brought out the best and worst in people in equal measure.

We have been using local delivery services, they need the business. All contactless, all fine. I also get a weekly supermarket delivery which I then split and deliver to my isolating parents, in-laws and sister. Shock, horror, I have to drive half an hour to do this. I then spend ten minutes or so chatting to them in their driveways or front gardens. So shoot me.

The majority of people are behaving in an entirely reasonable manner, in extremely testing circumstances. For anyone with depression or anxiety or who is just plain lonely, this situation is horrendous and made worse by the 'rules' police.

Show some compassion and common sense and get a bloody grip.

What you’ve said has been proved wrong anyway because the new guidance that just came out mentioned people can stop to eat during a long walk, so people like you op going “no you can’t sit for a short break on a park bench even while pregnant” are being ott, and being a jobsworth even when it probably isn’t even your job! It would be lovely if people could just focus on their own families rather than policing others and being so sanctimonious.

It would be lovely if people could just focus on their own families rather than policing others and being so sanctimonious.

But then how would they let the rest of us know how BRAVE and AMAZING they are being and how WELL they are sticking to the "rules", most of which they've invented for themselves.

Here's a gold star OP, for doing lockdown 100% better than everyone else. Well done you. Top of the class.

I've found parks police to be very understanding when I've sat on a bench for 5 min to rest during a walk (pregnant).