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Trump 100 Thread and We're Way Down the Rabbit Hole.

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lionheart · 11/04/2020 11:18

It is Easter, after all.

Old thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3820737-Acquitted-but-still-impeached-Trump-thread-99?pg=10

Trump 100 Thread and We're Way Down the Rabbit Hole.
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PerkingFaintly · 21/04/2020 23:07

Jaichange that's fabulous!

And, in the proper spirit of the times, a virtual online choir. Grin

TheNorthWestPawsage · 22/04/2020 08:41

Warmest condolences.

Consoler-in-chief? Lacking empathy, Trump weighs the economic costs, not the human ones
Instead of weighing the human costs alongside the economic ones, Trump seems to be thinking about something else: himself
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/22/trump-consoler-in-chief-coronavirus-crisis?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Lweji · 22/04/2020 12:00

Meanwhile, NK may have a change of leader soon. The way they are, he could be already dead.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 22/04/2020 12:02

Biden's "four Cs" of Trump coronavirus criticism

Watch for Joe Biden and his surrogates to stand up a disciplined criticism of President Trump's coronavirus response around "the four Cs," per a campaign memo obtained by Axios: "Coverup." "Chaos." "Corporate favoritism." And "caving" to lobbyists.

Why it matters: The memo signals the presumptive Democratic nominee's intention to make Trump's handling of the pandemic a central attack and provides the first detailed look at how his campaign intends to do it.

It was sent Tuesday to Democratic strategists and elected officials by deputy campaign manager Kate Bedingfield.
She wrote that many of its recipients have sought guidance from the campaign on how to talk about Trump and the virus.

Details: Trump is "responsible for unimaginable pain and suffering — and we need to be clear and unshakeable in communicating this to the American people," the memo says.

It charges that Trump bought China's "spin" and "went AWOL" early in the crisis even as "other countries, like our ally South Korea, mobilized and ramped up testing.".

It urges a public emphasis on two areas of impact: the death toll ("Over 40,000 Americans have already lost their lives to COVID-19") and unemployment rates ("We are losing millions of jobs at an unprecedented speed in our history.")
It argues that Trump was slow to enact the Defense Production Act because he was "caving to lobbying from big corporations worried that it would hurt their profits."
Between the lines: Biden's campaign team believes the coronavirus highlights contrasts in leadership between Trump and Biden — and they hope it can help Biden at the ballot box.

Biden told donors during a virtual fundraiser last week: "Your friends and coworkers are dying, our family members and friends and neighbors are dying, while Trump is having a temper tantrum."

The Trump campaign, meanwhile, has signaled plans to paint Biden as "soft" on China.

www.axios.com/joe-biden-trump-coronavirus-memo-e467bc02-c212-4eda-95e4-9132420fa37a.html

AcrossthePond55 · 22/04/2020 13:05

One of my favorite songs, made even better!

Thanks Jai

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lionheart · 22/04/2020 13:46

www.politico.com/news/2020/04/22/trump-rally-coronavirus-200107

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B1rdbra1n · 22/04/2020 17:01

how-donald-trump-almost-killed-my-husband
but but but he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and get away with it??
Trumps followers are heavily concentrated in the 'virus fodder category' do they realise this?

TheSparklyPussycat · 22/04/2020 18:49

From the White House transcript of Briefing, issued on 20th April: Trump says how he deals with questions that he doesn't like

I do think that the press, the media, foments a lot of this — a lot of anger. I really believe it. It foments tremendous anger. For instance, I’ll be asked a tremendously hostile question from somebody, and then I’ll answer to — in a hostile way, which is appropriate; otherwise, you look foolish. Otherwise, it looks like just walk off the stage and bow your head. I can’t do that. You know, I just can’t do that.

AcrossthePond55 · 22/04/2020 19:07

Trumps followers are heavily concentrated in the 'virus fodder category' do they realise this?

Nah, they're good. They all bought those 'prayed over' face masks that will keep 'demonic' Covid19 away.

“These masks have been prayed over by President Donald Trump and myself and offer complete protection from spiritual warfare,”

thebiznews.org/2020/04/01/white-selling-anointed-face-masks-blessed-by-trump/

B1rdbra1n · 22/04/2020 19:23

They all bought those 'prayed over' face masks
because of Trump Americans are being characterized as mad bible bashers:( it's so easy to point and laugh at such people but I'm sure they are only a tiny minority, but normally such a minority would not get license from the person at the top to behave in such a way...not in a developed first world country anyway.
Come on America, shake him off!

B1rdbra1n · 22/04/2020 19:33

says how he deals with questions that he doesn't like
his answer is in line with all his other answers, random words and the hand movements, but there is never a complete coherent sentence. He really does just speak like a confused old man, or like humpty dumpty, a word means whatever he wants it to mean, in that moment.
A 'hostile' question is hostile because if he gave a truthful answer it would make him look bad, he absolutely refuses to be accountable, he ducks and dives and dodges, anything he can.
How much longer can this go on??

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lionheart · 22/04/2020 19:39

The mask thing is bonkers.

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borntobequiet · 22/04/2020 20:00

That video is ace! Shared with family, friends.

TheSparklyPussycat · 22/04/2020 20:05

Mnuchin, Trump, and the Payment Protection Program

MNUCHIN
Now, let me make just one more comment on the program. We have over a million companies that have received this with less than 10 workers. So there is very broad participation in really small business. I will comment there have been some big businesses that have taken these loans. I was pleased to see that Shake Shack returned the money. We will be putting out some FAQs. There is a certification that people are making.

And I asked people — just make sure: The intent of this was for business that needed the money. We’ll put out an FAQ. But again, the intent of this money was not for big public companies that have access to capital.

...Again, there is a provision for — you know, where there are multiple affiliates that people can access this, but the intent was not for companies that have access to plenty of liquidity and other sources.

And again, if, to the extent these companies didn’t understand this and they repay the loans, that will be okay. And if not, there’ll be potentially other consequences.
During questions from the press

Q Mr. President, your Florida clubs have had to furlough workers —

THE PRESIDENT: Yeah. That’s true.

Q Have you thought about, you know, asking your family members to maybe keep some of those workers on the payroll to help — sending them to the federal coffer? We’ve seen companies — other companies do that.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I — you know, yeah. In Doral, you’re not allowed to have the golf courses open. You can’t have the clubs open. You can’t have anything. It’s a — it’s a big hotel and resort. And I think there’s probably 700, 750 people. So you can’t have anything open. And you say, “What are we going to do? Have full payroll and have the whole place with…” You know, there’s no income coming in.

First of all, everyone’s home and they’re supposed to be. Second of all, in Florida, you can’t use golf courses. That one, I’m not sure I agree with. You know, you have parks and golf courses where you have open space. But that’s what it is.

Q You haven’t thought about asking them to keep these —

THE PRESIDENT: You understand that. It’s called closed property, it’s like, you know, you have to close them up and then hopefully when things get better, we’ll just open it up. But you can’t have, you know, many hundreds of employees standing around doing nothing. There’s no customer. You’re not allowed to have a customer.
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Trump doesn't seem to notice that many small businesss are experiencing the same economic factors, with no capital to draw on. (His analysis shows an in-depth knowledge of economics, don't you think? Confused)

TheSparklyPussycat · 22/04/2020 20:08

My point in my first transcript post was that Trump actually voiced his strategy for dealing with "hostile" questions.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 22/04/2020 21:03

“These masks have been prayed over by President Donald Trump and myself and offer complete protection from spiritual warfare,”

From it? I should say-ay-ay so!

AcrossthePond55 · 22/04/2020 22:05

Director of key federal vaccine agency says his departure was retaliation www.cnn.com/2020/04/22/politics/rick-bright-barda-trump-coronavirus/index.html

Why am I not surprised?

TheNorthWestPawsage · 22/04/2020 22:27

Not the only one.

Trump threatened to fire CDC's chief of respiratory diseases in February: report
thehill.com/homenews/administration/494187-trump-threatened-to-fire-cdcs-chief-of-respiratory-diseases-in

President Trump nearly fired a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) official after she said in February that the agency was preparing for a pandemic, according to The Wall Street Journal.

"It's not a question of if this will happen but when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illnesses," Nancy Messonnier, the director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said on Feb. 25.

According to the Journal, Trump was angry with Messonnier after her statement resulted in a dip in the stock market. The same day, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said the virus was "contained" in the U.S.

The next day Trump repeatedly said he did not think an outbreak was "inevitable" and appointed Vice President Pence as the head of the administration's coronavirus task force.

Democrats have speculated that Trump was unhappy with Messonnier, who has not appeared at White House briefings since February. Ron Klain, a former aide for former Vice President Joe Biden who served as former President Obama's Ebola czar in 2014, said Messonnier faced "immediate blowback" for sounding the alarm about the coronavirus.

"Starting the next day, Dr. Messonnier no longer appeared at public briefings of the White House coronavirus task force. The president and the White House sent a clear message to scientists in the government - there would be a price for speaking out and speaking up," Klain said in a campaign video for Biden.

In recent weeks Trump has also been speculated to be unhappy with Anthony Fauci, the nation's leading infectious disease expert who frequently appears at White House briefings. Like other public health officials, Fauci's messaging often counters the administration's narrative.

The president made headlines on April 12 when he retweeted a post by former GOP congressional candidate DeAnna Lorraine, who blasted Fauci for suggesting that restrictive federal measures, if implemented earlier in the U.S., could have saved more lives amid the coronavirus outbreak, using the hashtag #FireFauci.

Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) introduced legislation that would limit Trump's ability to fire the public health expert.

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 23/04/2020 12:26

Oh, terrific. The one plus side to the whole business, peace and quiet without constant aircraft overhead, is to be shattered because Trump wants people to notice HimHimHim. Pah.

(Yes, all right, it was the senior forces people who thought of it. He has announced it and made it all about HimHimHim.)

lionheart · 23/04/2020 13:07

The L word.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-coronavirus-tests-states-new-york-city-mayor-bill-de-blasio-a9474721.html

'New York Mayor Bill De Blasio says Donald Trump is lying about the availability of tests for coronavirus after the president claimed states are "complaining" that the federal government has not provided equipment.

"The president is simply lying about the availability of all those components of testing, the swabs and everything," the mayor told MSNBC on Monday. "You can't get those things. You cannot get them."'

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B1rdbra1n · 23/04/2020 13:25

Trump clearly finds it hard to tolerate the presence of Dr Fauci, he is an intelligent reasonable controlled measured person, as such he is a walking insult to trump
When female reporters attack Trump you can see that he's partly enjoying it because he thinks that these women find him attractive

Minimammoth · 23/04/2020 16:13

Partially serious question....will the election go ahead if Trump can’t hold rallies?