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Trump 100 Thread and We're Way Down the Rabbit Hole.

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lionheart · 11/04/2020 11:18

It is Easter, after all.

Old thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3820737-Acquitted-but-still-impeached-Trump-thread-99?pg=10

Trump 100 Thread and We're Way Down the Rabbit Hole.
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Lweji · 22/05/2020 09:59

Similar age, not my favourite Democratic candidate, but 1000x better than the current holder, Biden speaks to Colbert.

BruceAndNosh · 22/05/2020 11:46

I really enjoy these Late Show monologues from the presenter's home.
Every morning during the week, I check to see what Seth Meyers and Stephen Colbert have said in their 5 to 15 minute slot.
Anyone else you recommend?

I'd actually be interested in any Pro Trump equivalent, as it would be interesting to see how they spin some of the rubbish things he has said and done.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 22/05/2020 12:31

"Life is what happens to you when you're busy making other plans."

Lweji · 22/05/2020 12:55

In addition to Colbert and Meyers, I also subscribe
The Daily Show with Trevor Noah
Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (only weekly)

And Samantha Bee, Jimmy Kimmel and Bill Maher, but don't watch as much.

There's also SNL Weekly Update, which is usually very good too, but only weekly.

Lweji · 22/05/2020 13:59

Kimmel may be on to something

I should check his monologues more often.

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cozietoesie · 22/05/2020 17:57

Indeed,

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Lweji · 22/05/2020 19:07

According to RealClearPolitics, Biden is 183 delegates vs 125 for Trump

Among toss up states, Biden has a lead in:
Florida, +3% on Fox; 2016 with 1.2 for Trump - 29 delegates
Pensylvania, +8%, even in the Fox News poll. Narrowly won by Trump in 2016 - 20 delegates
Michigan, +8% on Fox. Narrowly won by Trump in 2016 - 16 delegates

Trump has a lead in:
Texas, +2.5%, but 9% in 2016 - 38 delegates
North Carolina, +1%, but polls vary a lot. 3.7% in 2016 - 15 delegates

With these numbers, Biden would have 352 delegates, 82 more than needed to win.
Trump must be worried. Although, things change. Quickly. A lot... 2016...

www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/2020_elections_electoral_college_map.html

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 22/05/2020 19:24

Am I unkind to have read this (the writer is a retired drug-developer), thought of Trump and chortled?

blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/05/22/hydroxychloroquine-enough-already

Lweji · 22/05/2020 19:28

He's not taking it, though.

BelleHathor · 22/05/2020 19:34

Biden is trending on social media as he did an interview with the Breakfast club yesterday and basically insinuated that any African American that doesn't vote for him is not black. His "basket of deplorables" moment 😬.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=J5o5GDYl5Uw
m.youtube.com/watch?v=KOIFs_SryHI

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 22/05/2020 19:35

No, of course he isn't. What has happened is that having finally worked out how to say it reasonably reliably, he really really wants to show off his new word.

Like my daughter with "variegated" when she was four.

BruceAndNosh · 22/05/2020 19:36

I know the UK strategy has not won overall approval but I like to think that the Government was at least a) listening to the science (even if every country seems to have differing views on the science) and b) genuinely trying to reduce spread of the disease.
Trump's whole approach has been based on his own daft opinions and only interested in what is most likely to get him reelected. It is obscene to be using a pandemic to score political points

Roussette · 22/05/2020 20:00

The presser today. Trump is in a temper. 'I'm opening churches and I'll overrride ever State who doesn't'
Then he flounces

Then listened to McNinny. OMG the woman is deranged.

BruceAndNosh · 22/05/2020 20:19

Yup. Trump wants to open churches etc so that anyone who disagrees is anti Christian anti Jewish anti Muslim

Mittens030869 · 22/05/2020 20:28

Our church here in the UK is very active on Facebook. It isn't ideal but it's working well. Socially distancing at church will always be tricky, so I'm comfortable with us not going there until it's safe to do so, as I'm sure churches in the US are doing.

I hate churches being used for political propaganda, by any political party. Whether we meet at church every Sunday or rely on online communication, the decision needs to be made on whether it's safe to do so, not to make a political point.

PerkingFaintly · 22/05/2020 20:29

Really, bellehathor? Is this you letting us know you're distributing misleadingly edited vids again?

Because this was the bit the "basket of deplorables" clip carefully edited out:

"But the "other" basket – the other basket – and I know because I look at this crowd I see friends from all over America here: I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas and — as well as, you know, New York and California — but that "other" basket of people are people who feel the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures; and they're just desperate for change. It doesn't really even matter where it comes from. They don't buy everything he says, but — he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won't wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroin, feel like they're in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well."

PerkingFaintly · 22/05/2020 20:32

(Of course that section didn't work for the basket of I'm-Not-A-Trumpy-Buts. So they didn't spam it across MN and all the other social media they could find.)

lionheart · 22/05/2020 20:38

Oddness abounds.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/22/us-stores-against-face-masks

'In the last few weeks a spate of American stores have made headlines after putting up signs telling customers who wear masks they will be denied entry. On Thursday, Vice reported on a Kentucky convenience store that put up a sign reading: “NO Face Masks allowed in store. Lower your mask or go somewhere else. Stop listening to [Kentucky governor Andy] Beshear, he’s a dumbass.”'

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 22/05/2020 20:46

I have a friend with a lot of black internet friends from America who have said they don't dare to wear masks; they feel that they would become targets for police misunderstanding and might end up dead.

That of course might explain some of the "more black people get covid19" data. If they don't dare wear protective masks in case they are mistaken for some sort of bandit, they might just be more at risk.

PerkingFaintly · 22/05/2020 21:48

God that's a horrifying thought, AskingQs.

I might be out-of-date, but I thought wearing ordinary masks didn't have a very high impact on whether one caught the virus – more on whether one passed it on.

But what a horrible, horrible thing to have to be thinking about: "Will I be shot dead by 'mistake' if I wear a mask?"

BruceAndNosh · 22/05/2020 22:29

While I don't agree with the sentiment, I do like "dumbass" as an insult.
It's woefully underused in the UK.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 22/05/2020 23:46

I think wearing a mask reduces the amount of the virus one is going to breathe in by something like 85%, so it isn't perfect protection but it would certainly help. And yes, the whole "masks might put you in danger" idea is horrible to contemplate, isn't it.

Roussette · 23/05/2020 07:30

And isn't a mask a very good thing to wear if you happened to be asymptomatic, you're protecting the people around you.
Which is obviously why Trump wouldn't wear one - he cares about no one but himself