To think people just like screaming stay the fuck home again and again no matter whether it’s relevant or not?

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Ok screaming may be an exaggeration.

But the minute you mention stepping foot outside the house so many posters keep repeating stay the fuck home constantly without even reading the post and the details. Yes sometimes it is relevant and appropriate but on many occasions it’s absolutely not. There are lots of genuine reasons for people not to stay the fuck at home. Not everyone has somebody to shop for them and online shops are difficult to get or the vulnerable person isn’t computer literate. Some people on here have decided for themselves what is essential and what is not despite it not matching up to governmental guidelines.

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"we are all voluntarily staying at home on the advice of the government."

ah, but that's not true. The govt has sweeping powers to enforce the SAH order. Fines and other penalties that escalate. It's sure not 'voluntary'.

It's voluntary whether you wear a mask or only go to shops once a week. But lots else about this situation isn't voluntary.

It is voluntary at the moment. If people (including the government members here) continue to abuse the guidelines, then they will make in mandatory as they will simply have no other option.

And it’s never “stay at home”, it’s “STAY AT HOME”, like the people who haven’t got the message after thousands of deaths and a global pandemic are going to think “gosh, all-caps, this must be serious.”

That story in the metro... looks like the policeman walked right up the garden and came in close proximity to the man, with no PPE, to tell him he couldnt sit in his own garden?! I would have told him to piss off

It's the people in RL that bother me. I mentioned on a Whatsapp group that Id had a brief chat with my next door but one neighbour because we both happened to come out to the front garden at the same time and the response was as if I'd said that I'd gone up and kicked her

As for the mask wearing. That one pains me. The only benefit to those is the psychological affect and reassure (albeit false) it gives the wearer.

Unless it is a correctly fitted mask and absolutely sealed then it has no affect at all. When wearing one if you can blow out a naked flame, then it is not doing it's job. Also wearing a mask and gloves makes little difference when the virus can enter the body via your eyes, which are not protected.

Unless these masks are changed frequently then they cause more harm to the wearer as they harbour the bacteria present on the surface of them. Hospital staff working close with coronavirus change their PPE every two hours.

I witnessed a couple going to their car after leaving a supermarket. They were wearing a face mask and gloves. They put down their bags near to their car, removed the gloves and applied hand sanitiser. They then picked up the bags again to put in to their car boot. I couldn't work that one out at all! Surely get home and then remove the gloves after unpacking the shopping and then use the hand sanitiser. Made no sense to me to apply hand sanitiser and then pick up the bags again!

Haha that was meant to say "licked her"

I've actually found it terrifying and quite depressing how much people are enjoying judging others and all these rules to follow. I feel like a lot of people in this country are quite right wing and lacking in empathy. This situation has just given them an excuse to hate on others and a nicely strict set of laws to berate people with. I'm really scared for what the gov think they can get away with in future.

YANBU. Some people just like getting to judge others, but I don't think that's the main reason.
I think people do it because they're feeling stressed and helpless against something invisible.
Telling off others gives them something tangible to fight and makes them feel like they're 'doing something'.
Doesn't stop it from being annoying and worryingly authoritarian but I think that's where a lot of it comes from. Same with all the judging for not clapping.

@Arnoldthecat it’s not the law. It’s a recommendatio. Not the law. I don’t get what people don’t understand about this. There is NO LAW to stay inside. It is a government guideline and some coppers are taking it a bit too far. It’s not a law so if you get ‘fined’ for being outside just don’t pay it and send them a screen shot of the official consensus which states you can go out a limitless amount of times for food, exercise and medical issues

@Pleasebeafleabite

It really doesn’t anyway unless you are lacking in vocabulary or Detective Debra Morgan

Very important exceptions

Made me laugh!

Was one woman on our local Facebook group who was literally frothing at the mouth about 'people being out'. Despite the arguments being put to her for genuine reasons people might be out for, she just kept frothing away. You can't help people like that.

I think there are some martyrs who haven't set foot outside since mid March, and are starting to get very bitter now the nice weather's arrived.

People have swapped their #bekind stickers for #stayhome ones to virtue signal.

These people love feeling better than everyone else and dissing the rest of the world on social media. There's so much of it on my Fbk at the eminent - rolling eye emojis etc.

As far as I can see everyone I know IS staying home - it seems to be a tiny minority of younger people as far as I can see from the news and they don't read my Fbk so a #stayhome sticker won't make a jot of difference.

(I am staying at home btw but bored of people going on about it)

I've unfollowed a lot of Facebook "friends" for their endless stern lectures about STAY AT HOME. I always want to ask them who the fuck they imagine they're talking to, and why they think they're going to persuade people if the government, police and scientists haven't.

Yanbu. Quite scary really how gleeful some people seem to have been to have an excuse to tell others what to do.

And some posters on this site seem to have made up their own rules as well.

The half an hour and 1 hour thing came from a simple state,not by someone in government.
I remember watching it. It wasn't said that people have limit of 1 hour. He said he would think an hours walk or half an hour run was what people would need. He pointed out he could go a good few k in an half an hour run and most people would only do that amount.

But I agree stay at home has become a stupid expression that in most cases doesn't protect anyone from the virus anymore than what they are doing going out!
Ds and I cycle. We pick a time that's easy and no one else is about in general. We arent touching any surfaces, we aren't entering any buildings and we don't go into any shops.

And the truth is we'd have more exposure from mail being delivered than we get from being outdoors.

I've been cycling most days and I'm so proud of everyone in our area being so careful with social distancing, almost no cars on the road so very reduced journeys and generally very quiet. I smell BBQs a lot but that's great because people are able to enjoy the nice weather.

The windup merchants on here asking for "permission" to do all manner of weird and wonderful different things create frustration. They are exacerbating fear and anxiety in others by being the outliers, when actually the majority of people are being very careful and considerate towards others.

It is really interesting observing peoples response to threat.

I have ocd and part of the therapy is about mental reaction to perceived threat. Catastrophising, magical thinking, rumination, attention bias, etc. It is how our minds cope with anxiety.

Most of these people shouting stay at home are trying to control their own fear by controlling their external world. Some are authoritarian by nature. A few are arseholes.

Some people would hate me right now, I’m leaving my flat everyday to move my possessions into my new flat. I wish I didn’t have to, I would love to STAY AT HOME but my current home is only mine for another week, and I’m being as a safe as possible by doing the move completely alone with a tiny car, so I am making one journey a day with as much as I can take. I’ll be glad when I can finally just stay at home.

@RuffleCrow
That is so true

@itsgettingweird

And the truth is we'd have more exposure from mail being delivered than we get from being outdoors

How come?

The ones who screamed stay at home because you've gone for a walk and say I hope the walking was worth it when someone dies .
Also the ones who get really gleeful at the rules being enforced further and speculating further . Like police fines and arresting you for taking your dog for a walk because and I quote 'People aren't listening'. No people are listening they go out to shop a lot less frequently there are hardly any cars about near me . People need to exercise but obviously there are so many that are staying in because they are vulnerable.
I think most don't give too hoots as long as people are distancing but some get very upset probably because they can't go out . Those that are choosing to stay home good for you but we can go out so will .
We can't go anywhere it's the supermarket once a week approximately , a run or walk daily hardly exciting .
I think these people are probably the ones complaining are really hoping rules are enforced further just to make everyone else as miserable as them.

Was it Churchill who said the thing about best of times/worst of times? That’s definitely what I’m seeing. So many people being absolutely bloody amazing and then this small (but very vocal) minority helping us to see exactly how totalitarian states consolidate and maintain power so quickly.