Zoom ettiquiete

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I do a few hours of maths tuition a week as a volunteer working with looked after children. Since lockdown I have been doing this via Zoom.

One of the foster carers has been recording the sessions and told me this was to share with her own children which I wasn't keen on but didn't object to. I have now found out that her sister who runs a big scale tutoring business is sending these videos out as part of her weekly work pack for which she charges £30 (they get a class lesson as well).

AIBU to think this is not ok and they should have asked? When I questioned her I was told 'we're all in the same boat and need to help each other'. I have had to shut my business and have no income at present so I whilst I happy to volunteer and help vulnerable students I do not want to be creating content for a private business to use for free. AIBU?

Put a piece of paper on camera with “I do not consent to this session being recorded or shared”

Or “for free tutoring, contact xxxxxx”

Or refuse to offer them a service.

That is wrong!
Also, Foster carers in my area have been told to avoid Zoom because of security concerns.

This is not a zoom etiquette issue.

1. It is a data protection issue.
2. It is a child protection issue.
3. It’s an intellectual property issue.

Foster carers in my area have been told to avoid Zoom because of security concerns

It is in the interests of other providers to make sure people are worried about Zoom. Rumors really help them do that.

It is a long established company which has provided this service for years. It has the leading market share by quite some distance and if there was an inherent insecurity in their system, it would have been widely reported long before now and the company wouldn’t be so successful.

This is a typical example of people who don’t know what they are talking about making policies which actually could expose them to more risk.

I've spoken to the foster carer and it did not go well. She said I am being selfish and need to think of 'all the children'. I didn't know there were security concerns with zoom, I should have researched more and not taken people's word at face value.
I know about child protection and safe guarding but was unaware of a lot of what is raised on this thread. Thanks so much

MintyMabel the security concerns have been widely reported.
Some of the things people are concerned about are in the T and Cs.

How is avoiding Zoom exposing anyone to increased risk?

As an aside, I can't see how there are security concerns with zoom. To enter your chat/group/lesson someone would have to guess your 9 digit meeting code and then (assuming you've set one which you should have) guess the 6 digit passcode.

How is avoiding Zoom exposing anyone to increased risk?

Because it may point them towards a similar product with much lesser security settings.

If they want to use your video to reach "all the children" then they need to pay you for it. Have you approached this with her? Why does she think her sister should profit off your work?

Report to the Virtual School as well, OP.

But back on topic, 469 replies, 100% YANBU. Beyond CFery.

Yes, I have been asked to work for her on many occasions. I don't want to work for her - it is in some ways the opposite of what I specialise in and I have a long waiting list but am currently shut due to CV19. The foster mum asked to get a prioritised place for my paid for service and I refused as some people have been waiting 18 months. Arrgggg ok I will call the co ordinator at the LEA and inform her of the problems I've had.

TooLittle well of course......which ones are less safe?

Obviously the LA have recommended safer options.

Is there not some way you can protect/password protect your videos?

The absolute cheek of it. I would speak to sister directly and inform her you will be instructing a solicitor. Outrageous.

That's madness. I'm sorry the foster carer refused to try to understand.

She said YOU were being selfish??? Wow, her sense of entitlement is off the scale !!

So it is ok for them to get a freebie, but you are apparently the one in the wrong?

I have reported to Virtual School/LEA now, the co ordinator is raging mad and offering to pay me for the volunteering if I'll carry on. She said she'd speak to the foster carer this afternoon...... Arrgg!

Brilliant OP let us know if they report back. So mad on your behalf.

How very fucking dare they.

I am being selfish and need to think of 'all the children'.
Surely she needs to 'think of all the children' and not charge for tutoring them, then? If she (or her sister) want to sell a service, they have to be capable of providing that service themselves. Nothing is stopping them from recording tutoring videos and selling them (except the fact they don't have the subject matter expertise to do so).

If you want to make content available for anyone to access, you are also free to do that - there are lots of great maths tutorials available on YouTube and I'm sure yours would be fab too. But it is your choice.

She is very sorry, and just wanted the best for 'all the children'. Whatever that means. She will stop but wanted to know if her DC can still use her recordings, she was told no. I am looking at Zoom settings etc.
I am not a tutor - I am a psychologist who likes maths! I have no intention of making a profession of this

Christ some people are just total cheeky bastards who ruin everything for everyone. Shame on her.

'all the children' who were coughing up 30 quid a week to her. Un-bloody-believable.

Is she only very sorry after being spoken to by the LEA, or is this 'apology' before that?