To think cycling should be banned under lockdown?

[catsarelifetome]

I just had to drive to an essential medical appointment, and come across dozens of cyclists.

Why is cycling still allowed when driving is only allowed for essential travel? Surely the 1 hour exercise should be restricted to walking? If the cyclist falls off or is hit by a car, that puts pressure on emergency services.

And yes I know a very small minority will be cycling to an essential job... but I doubt all the people I saw were doing so. Surely the rules should be the same... essential travel only.

We have a duty right now to be sensible and to look after each other

Ok. So whats being done to help those of us being shielded then?

So whats being done to help those of us being shielded then?

You’re being shielded to keep you safe from CV. In my area at least, community groups are getting you the provisions you need.

I’m very sorry you can’t access gyms and pools. There is unfortunately not much to be done about that right now.

Tell me again what banning cycling would achieve for you?

Apart from damaging other people’s physical and mental health so that when this is all over, you’ll have to share the scarce NHS resources available with them?

You’re being shielded to keep you safe from CV. In my area at least, community groups are getting you the provisions you need.

😂😂😂

Funny isn't it, how we just have manage with bare necessities yet the rest you simply cannot manage without daily copious amounts of exercise.

Tell me again what banning cycling would achieve for you?

Again, where have I said it should be banned? I think limits should be placed on it and I think you should all be honest - that you are doing it because you want to do it, not because you need to.

Apart from damaging other people’s physical and mental health so that when this is all over, you’ll have to share the scarce NHS resources available with them?

And this is hilarious. So, when this is over all you exercise addicts will stand back and give us access to the health care we need to try and reverse the months of being shut up indoors? Yeah, right.

i think limits should be placed on it

What limits then?

and I think you should all be honest - that you are doing it because you want to do it, not because you need to.

Full disclosure. I’m not a cyclist. However I see the great value it has for others.

So answer this ...

Do you believe that exercise has a big impact on people’s mental and physical health? Yes or no?

If yes ...

Do you agree that, where possible, maintaining people’s mental and physical health is important as we we face the biggest public health emergency we’ve ever known and people are being put under enormous pressure by the measures having to be taken? Yes or no?

I'd love to see anyone trying to ban cycling in Oxford. Driving is actively discouraged so half the city would be without transport. Roads are delightfully car free at the moment and therefore safer than usual.

And yet again, what does placing limits on cycling do to help you and your situation?

Oh I get it. It is a matter of "I had to stop doing things I like so therefore others should stop doing things they like. Otherwise it is unfair". Wow. Just ... Wow. That is very immature.

Do I think limits should be placed on exercise? The limits are already there - minimise the time spent outside.

Clearly, people aren't capable of policing this themselves though and apparently, for some, cycling fifty miles or walking for four hours is "minimising".

Do you agree that, where possible, maintaining people’s mental and physical health is important yes. Which you can do by exercising at home or by exercising for an hour outdoors. That minimises exposure, and let's everyone have a turn.

Still waiting to hear what's in place to help me, you know, as you're so keen on us having a duty to look out for each other. Also wondering how you're going to make sure the exercise addicts amongst you are going to make sure those of us who are housebound will be at the front of the queue for help when this over. You know, as you've just given that as justification for your exercise.

It's an age old phenomenon- Aesop wrote his fable of The Dog in the Manger millennia ago.

Crikey you sound so bitter hear

Im leaving the thread, there are some seriously sociopathic people about !

Hear is linking two separate things in a way that makes absolutely no sense. Give up Laurie😁

Yes ban it. While you’re at it, I think it’s probably time we banned breathing as well. After all that pollutes the common air supply.

I’m getting tired of the amount of judgement of other people’s behaviour which affects no one else. I’ve never understood Britain’s absolute hostility to cycling anyway. Possibly some defensive reaction in the face of people being healthy, active and fit in the fresh air.

Nope. I haven't linked anything. It's people on here that are linking things.

So far I've seen the reasons

excuses why you have to go outside to exercise - physical health, mental health, vitamin D, prevent obesity. If they are legitimate reasons then it's a legitimate question to ask what's in place to protect those who are shielded isn't it?

Then there's other ludicrous excuses like a pp who is doing it to maintain her health in order to save NHS resources for people like me! Pull the other one, it's got bells on

Tbh I can understand someone in chronic pain being miserable. Not sure what we can suggest from here that would help you Hear. Have you got access to medical advice? Indoor exercising kit?

So far I've seen the reasons
excuses why you have to go outside to exercise - physical health, mental health, vitamin D, prevent obesity. If they are legitimate reasons then it's a legitimate question to ask what's in place to protect those who are shielded isn't it?

You are conflating two totally different issues, yes.

I’m not sure what I can say to you as logic isn’t getting through.

Except I suppose that the unprecedented measures like closing gyms and shielding people are being put in place to keep you safe. Perhaps you’d prefer to take your chances 🤷‍♀️

And limiting others will not improve your situation one jot.

I was gonna correct the 1 hour myth on Facebook then realised thst the idiots that believe it will be out for less time.

People cycling responsibly, no problem. Adults cycling on the pavement are morons.
As was the cyclist in Dublin today who deliberately picked up speed when he saw me crossing the road. I just made it onto the footpath as he whizzed past. I was actually walking back to the hospital nearby where I'd left my car and was waiting for my mother to finish her outpatient cancer treatment.
It was her first time out of the house in a month and I, and the hospital, had gone to huge lengths to minimise risk and make sure she came in contact with as few people as possible.
If that toerag had knocked me down he would have caused all sorts of problems and possibly cost my mother her life.

I know he's not representative of all cyclists, just a particularly self entitled individual. But people like him do the reputation of cyclists no favour.

No problem with cyclists on the roads. Cyclists in parks however are another matter.

Have you got access to medical advice? Indoor exercising kit?

Not really, no. Medical access is cut to a minimum isn't it? All of my hospital appointments have been converted to telephone consultations and all have just been holding, so deferred any decisions or treatment for three months in the hope they can see me face to face. Therapy appointments like.physio and hand therapy have been cancelled. Only option to treat pain is to double pain medication which I've done, but it's opiate medication which will have huge implications going forward.

I've so far used exercise as a way of maintaining muscle strength and pain control but that's ended. Very limited to what I can do at home as I need proper equipment to keep my joints in proper alignment.

So, if exercise is vital to.maintain physical and mental health - do we not matter? We're just having to do the best we can so I really cannot understand why everyone else can't do the same and why four hour walks or fifty mile bike rides are necessities.

Why does the bad behaviour of one cyclist “do the reputation of cyclists no favours?”. That makes no sense whatsoever. Does a bad driver of a car do the behaviour of car drivers no favours? Cyclists are not a group we are as diverse as the people that get on buses or the people that drive cars.

Walking should be banned along with being outside at all. People should run on the spot, in their home, preferably under cover of darkness. Six times a day for ten minutes. You should fill in your exercise permit each time and show on demand to any nosey neighbour. Failure to do so will result in a fine and public shaming on social media.

YY and also remember bread and milk even though staples in UK are not essential.

We've been living on dust and condensation for 6 months now, and don't leave the airing cupboard. Me, DH and the 15 kids. It's fine!

why are so many of the bastards cycling on pavements in cycling gear ?

Possibly because the cars are doing way way over the speed limit in many areas.

Cyclists aren't doing that round here but the drivers have gone nuts.

Cyclists are an irritant, but that has nothing to do with COVID-19.