To think everyone is going to get very fed up with all this?

[cantata]

The thought of John Lewis dumping a washer-dryer on my doorstep and expecting me to remove the old (integrated) one and carry and plumb in the new one makes me wonder.

AIBU to think we're going to get fed up with this social distancing malarkey before very long?

(I hate it anyway, as I need people around me for my sanity. And not my teenagers 24/7).

I mean someone moving into empty properties, with minimum of two men working and an owner there.

I don't know how you read any of that from my post JanMeyer. I simply meant that it is unnecessary for people to say cruel things to people who are struggling with their mental health.

I read that, Affirmative. I'm not sure Hitchens is being helpful, he is such a waffler at the best of times.

In the same paper there's an article about The Cambridges starting a £5m fund to help those with mental health problems during the lockdown. I will read more detail tomorrow (or later this morning), but that is the sort of thing we need. People will die if they don't get support.

I don’t believe any sustainable course of action will reduce deaths from the virus unless a cure or a vaccine are found.

The best "cure" is not to get it in the first place, and not to spread it to others if there might be the slightest chance that you have it (i.e. having symptoms or contact with someone who develops symptoms).

There are reports that Covid-19 can cause lasting lung damage even in healthy patients. In the US, there were early reports that most of those admitted to hospital were younger people, and in the same week, Italy also reported an increase in younger people who had experienced only mild symptoms initially.

Circa 20% of infected people will go on to become critical / severe cases. And a report in Guardian today suggested that approx. 50% of those who end up in ICU are dying.

By quarantining we are all stopping the virus from spreading and infecting everyone. If we didn't and everyone DID become infected we would see a massive loss of life. If someone is more occupied with their first world problems, consider what it might feel like to lose a loved one prematurely because that would become a reality for a great many people.

Also, even you don't get infected with this disease, the burden on the health service could end up resulting in loss of life indirectly as well - such as a road accident victim who cannot be admitted because all ICU beds are full. The Tories have dismantled our health service over ten years, we are in a worse position than Italy, Germany and Spain.

To the OP - This is a once in a lifetime crisis, and such crises will test our mental health. But if you don't regard this crisis as being serious enough for you to follow social distancing protocols, then you must not yet have a grasp of the problem we are facing. Ironically, it will be the actions of those who flout the rules that will keep this lockdown in place for longer, as they will keep spreading the virus.

Frankly, I think the Government should have followed the same process as South Korea (lots of testing, tracing and immediate isolation of those infected). In the early days, it seemed to be going down this route by setting up testing points, but dark forces in Downing Street have put on us on a different path.

Surely a washing machine is pretty essential for any family?

I'm learning so much from.MN this week.

So along with other families of six who never have more than two tins of food in the house, how do other families wash there clothes?

Surely washing in a stream is a socail distancing issue right now? Plus how many of uk people live within walking distance of a stream?

So much for "be kind"

I don’t believe what I’m reading here! I won’t even begin to go into what’s happened to me in my life and the state of my MH but MY MH does not trump other people’s right to stay alive! I’m getting cabin fever like everyone else but I want my mother and myself and all my other loved ones to survive this so I’ll continue to obey the rules and stay indoors or as long as it takes! Jesus, over a 1000 people dead and the Tsunami hasn’t hit us! Hospitals are saying they will run out of ICU beds in a week. The video of the guy sobbing because he wasn’t allowed to be there with his Mum when She died on Thursday was gut wrenching to watch! I’m horrified by some of the self obsessed posts I’m reading on here.

Could you arrange for someone you know to go in, when you are out having your once a day permitted exercise?

Sure it's been said but aren't laundrettes open? OP can go there instead, so much safer than having a white good plumbed.

That's pitting one vulnerable group against another.

A country deciding how to respond to coronavirus does pit many vulnerable groups against each other. It pits elderly people and those with certain medical conditions against the mentally-ill, battered women, the zero-hour contact precariat, the self-employed, the homeless, the list goes on.

It's not the people who are voicing their struggles with lockdown who are doing the "pitting", but the virus itself. There is no way for the Govt to react to this without harming someone; even the choice to do nothing would still pit the affected groups against each other with a different group taking the brunt of the harm. It's entirely reasonable for the harmed people to voice their frustration, especially when many of the people being protected enjoy the triple pension lock and free bus passes whilst the people harmed wait months or years for mental health care or don't know where the rent money is coming from after being laid-off. Elderly people are seen as privileged (not always accurately, some don't have gold-plated pensions), and I expect that some people will feel like the elderly are being protected at the expense of people who are already worse off than they are.

You tube? How to install your particular brand and you mentioned teenagers and a partner, Can they help drag it indoors.
Yes it is difficult and although we all know why we are doing this does not mean it is not healthy to have a good healthy vent.
I loathe it and so miss being out and about all day, today I'm jealous of my cat who's allowed to wonder anywhere, not jealous your flash new washing machine lucky you!
Some of us pre plan to work for nice things I am one also before we all lose our jobs perhaps.

I do understand how isolation affects MH OP. It's dreadful. Sadly, the government have to play a numbers game. They know hundreds of thousands will die if we don't lock down.

Yes, hundreds of thousands may become mentally unwell because of the lockdown and economic factors, BUT we can hopefully fix people's mental health in time. We can't fix people being dead from Covid 19.

Some people, sadly, may choose to end their lives as a result of their worsening mental health, and that's awful and a tragedy. But there will be far fewer who die by suicide than would die from Covid running unchecked.

The government have to choose between two shit options, and have chosen the one which will save most lives. They have also put tons online about how to stay mentally well in a lockdown.

Sadly, comments such as "this can't continue long term" are unhelpful. This CAN continue if the government feels it is necessary to benefit the most people. We don't have a choice about this, unless people want to be arrested....and then promptly returned to lockdown. It sucks, no-one thinks it doesn't, but it's something we HAVE to do.

There is no point in lamenting what we can't do. That energy could be put into working out what you can do to improve your mood. And when you feel low, do one of those things. Focusing on what is restricted will make anyone bloody miserable and won't change a single thing. Looking for ways to cope might just make the next few weeks less dreadful.

Good luck with it all OP

Everyone got “very fed up of” The Blitz too, as I understand it. But what is there to do but get on with it?

I have symptoms now, have spent days obsessing over how to secure sufficient food for a medically vulnerable household of five, and today spent hours working out whether we’ve narrowly missed out on the self employment scheme. (I think we have on a technicality.)

So it’s not that I feel unscathed at all, but honestly, we’re basically all in this together and there’s no point moaning about minor inconveniences. There are much worse things going on. Scared people, very ill people, immensely vulnerable people.

Solution to washing machine.... youtube it, get tour kids to help. Problem solved. Are you renting?

@cantata Plumb in, really?? How hard can that be, you aren't installing a bloody central heating system!! The "plumbing in" will take all of a couple of minutes.

But it does make me wonder whether there will be a tipping point at which people will just think: "sod this for a game of soldiers" and will try to re-establish normality, whatever the currently-out-of-work-jobsworths on MN might say.

That's sort of starting to happen around here, noticed it starting Friday, yesterday it was really noticeable. People out and about, certainly more cars going past.

Unfortunately in three or four weeks you’ll wish you’d listened to the “Social distancing Stasi”.

Another 832 dead here in Spain yesterday, and the numbers are still going up. 😢

OP I am not sure anyone anywhere will be establishing normality next week, I think we are all going to be looking on in horror or actually experiencing the soon to be peak CV, and no one is going to give two craps about washing machines!! Have you even seen the footage coming out of Spain and Italy??

Do you suppose they are building super hospitals in one week and turning airports into morgues just for kicks?

You do know that next week and the week after are going to be truly horrendous on a scale we have never experienced before, and you somehow imagine we are going to get 'fed up'? Get a grip, the worst of this has not even started yet. Your broken foot and washing machine issues are going to pale into insignificance pretty soon.

Yep! People will get bored and will give up on it. Which is what Boris said in the beginning. The longer this is in place the less people will comply. I also bored!! Never thought I would miss Baby sing and play so much!

Toughest thing about lockdown is it's going to get worse very soon. Along with real food shortages especially fresh food as our crops rot in the fields as there's no one to pick them and we can't get any from elsewhere, and the fact that it is inevitable that within a week or two restrictions on our movements are going to be ramped up i.e. only keyworkers allowed to work, no exercise as loads of people think that particular rule doesn't apply to them. And if you think your in lockdown just for 21 days then you are really in for a shock as this virus in this country won't peak till at least mid April. They can't let us out all at once to carry on as normal as China has just found out after a long lockdown the virus is still lurking. But the very worst thing is not being able to see my Dgd stuck at home alone while her single parent mum a carer goes to work 6 12 hour shifts a week because of lack of staff, when she ( Dgd) has just come out of hospital after suffering internal bleeding due to an auto immune blood disorder and fears she may have a bleed again ( she is just 18). She is stuck in her home no going out at all as she is on immune suppressing drugs for 12 weeks and I am stuck in my house for 12 weeks no going out at all cos I am on cancer treatment! And my poor DD is biking 24 miles a day to and fro to work then trying to shop after shifts and finding empty shops and is at breaking point. That's what I call inconvenient!

Unfortunately in three or four weeks you’ll wish you’d listened to the “Social distancing Stasi”.

I AM social distancing. I dont have to enjoy it.

AIBU to think we're going to get fed up with this social distancing malarkey before very long?
YANBU to point this out OP. We're already fed up.
But, we need to strengthen our resolve and prepare ourselves for what is shortly to come. And it'll be grim. It won't seem like malarkey then.

Haven't got a integrated one but DH always says a normal one is dead easy to put in, could you just put it in and do the basic connections and not worry too much about the integrated bit or how it looks

You mention teenagers, can they do the heavy stuff between them and you supervise the plumbing part

I'm fed up and it's only been a week. It's great that the vast majority of people are taking this seriously, but I just cannot see people doing this for more than a few weeks. We are not the same as China for example, or another Communist society.
I fear the suicide rate will spike, and that there will be more deaths from the economic fallout.

I'm with you op, we cant do it for too long we are social animals, also people that keep banging on about we need tougher lockdown are normally the ones who stay at home anyway!

I'm doing my bit, I'm staying home but am I enjoying it, no! Do I want to get out this bloody house?! Yep!!! Some people are actually enjoying it.

This whole social distancing and lockdown is necessary of course, completely but you don't have to like it.