To think i should be able to go out

[Snufflesdog]

Without coming into contact with people?!

I can’t get to my car (medical trips today) without getting close to children playing in the road

And I can’t walk our dog without crossing paths with about 100 other people. In addition to all the children on the estate playing out in the road, many others are playing in their front gardens - meaning I would have to walk in the road to stay 6ft from them. Down one road there was at least 5 groups of people (who are not one family or from one household) hanging around just on the pavement having a chat and many of whole were drinking beers(!) out in the sun
There were also people filing in and out of all the local shops for ‘essential’ shopping - such as an ice cream, or a can of coke.

This is not a summer holiday!

What is so hard about these guidelines and why does no one care?!

@Bringringbring12 I’m also in London - east London. Believe you me, it is not dead. Went for a walk between 1600 and 1700 today and it was bedlam. So many people out - many of them not obeying social distancing.

But it soon will be dead, if people don’t start heeding the warnings.

Some of the runners are really bad about keeping their distance. NOT all of them before you leap on me! But some just keep on running and expect me to manage to drag my three big dogs -2 flatcoated retrievers and a golden retriever- out of their way. My old goldie is 14 and he’s pretty slow so I end up nearly falling over him to get him into the edge of the track as they hurtle past us with a cheery ‘thanks’. It doesn’t occur to them that they could either slow down or, given they’re generally half my age, just give us a bit more space.

My old cocker and I have spent a lot of time at the bedroom window recently, watching the world go by.

A cyclist spat as he sped past today.

I was in my garden today when a police car pulled up outside, they looked at me, saw I was alone then drove on.
I live in an area where the police are frequent visitors anyway, so it could be them checking to see no one was counting the rules of social distancing, or doing their usual job of investigating some other law breaking.

People are idiots!! Thankfully where I live has been really good, daughter and I went for a little walk round the block earlier for our daily exercise and we only encountered a couple of other people and we were all careful to cross road etc and barely any cars around.

Just walking past someone is not going to give you the virus. Close contact is defined as around 15 minutes. Chill.

Hey @Lou12124 I’ve answered a few times on this. On our road there are people with Coronavirus.
There are also a lot of key workers walking to work.
The children (in front) gardens generally do not stay in there and even if they do they’re coming into contact (not 6ft apart) with every single person that walks past. That seems an unnecessary risk to me, however brief it is. However It’s their choice, it really mainly just becomes an issue for me when they keep coming out of the garden / wanting to pet the dog / when I also can’t walk in the road or cross over because there are so many other children out playing in the street too.
I can’t walk to my car without being near children and they are regularly on ours and other peoples drives too. Also some of the front gardens here are not fenced off between houses - so there’s no clear barrier, so kids are spilling into other peoples front garden right up to their lounge windows.

We have lots of high risk and vulnerable people on the road and I do feel that it’s a bit selfish to increase their risk, even if it’s only marginal.
Also if it was for 20 mins or even an hour outside that’s one thing. But it’s literally 8 hours a day at the moment.
They do all have back gardens they can play in, or even be taken out for a walk/bike ride with parents.
I’m not suggesting everyone stay in doors all day.

@ drinkygin Boris did literally say all non essential shops and businesses should close and parks and playgrounds.
I completely agree OP I know I’m lucky to have a garden no everyone does but my little two have been playing in the back garden all day on their own away from other children and when they did go out in the front briefly no one else was on the street. To be fair on our road people do seem to be sticking to the rules but it’s driving me insane seeing and hearing stories of people going out for jollies. The weathers not helping anything though.

It is madness letting the DC play like it is midterm. Around here the majority are playing by the rules.

Joggers are winding me up. Running past puffing and panting germs.

people who let their asymptomatic children come right near you are really pissing me off and they act so put out when you say something.

I'm in East London too, and have to say, and I know will get shot down, but it's true, that over the last two days walking my dog I have had 6 incidents of people being close and behaving stupidly and none of them were British they were Eastern European. London is not listening People I know in other parts, Sunderland, Midlands are saying its quiet. London is looking almost like normal. What is wrong with people. Children are asymptomatic too, they can infect many people. What don't parents understand about that?????????????

Agree. I stepped away from someone in the corner shop who was so close she was touching me (I was out of everything except loo roll, bless the Poundshop stock up I did months back ) & she did a double take & pulled a face. Then the two women in front not wearing gloves paid with cash & had a really lengthy chat while ever so slowly packing their shopping & bickering over who paid for what, like it was a normal & social outing.

Wow. My family is following the rules but I'm still incensed by some of the judgy twats on here. Especially the dog walkers who seem to think they have some pre-existing ownership of parks and green spaces. Most people would usually get exercise aspart if their daily lives - walking to/from school/nursery/work, doing the shopping, at they gym/pool/sports teams etc. When you're told to stay in except to specifically take exercise of course more people will be in the green spaces more. So you may well be seeing more people. As long as they are keeping their distance from you then mind your own business. You don't know who is in whose household. You don't know how long theyvetbeen gathered in a place or how long they intend to stay there.

The only thing that annoys me is seeing teens still using the playgrounds. It's hard to explain to a 3 year old on a walk why she can't use the swings and slide anymore without scaring her; when she sees the "big children" still sitting all over the equipment she is forbidden in groups it makes it even harder. But the idea people will be getting the arse with me because I take her out for an hour to kick a ball across the park (well away from others) makes me livid to be honest. Mind. Your. Own. Business.

Anyone still in any doubt, watch BBC Breakfast right now. The answer is a very clear no, just stay home.

But it's not though, is it?

Very much agree venicequeen about the sense of ownership over public space. Seen so many posts from people clearly thinking they're being incisive saying how odd it is that so many more people are out jogging now. It's not even slightly odd, given that so many of the other ways in which people would previously have exercised and been outdoors are temporarily off limits.

Absolutely agree with venicequeen - good post. I have a dog. I am seeing more people in green spaces. Stands to bloody reason when they cannot get their usual exercise anywhere else and you will NOT get it from passing someone briefly for less than 5 seconds. Just walk swiftly by. We live southeast in a small town and as far as I can see everyone is being respectful. I don’t buy into this stricter measures coming that the dramatists on Mumsnet love to discuss. None of us knows. The only thing I will say is that it will be interesting to see what happens when we are at the weekend. I think people have been mostly ‘doing the right thing’ with kids at home to be schooled, work to be done etc but with the prospect of a weekend and then at least 2 weeks off for Easter I think people will find it much harder with all routine out of the window.

I’m in the NE and you wouldn’t think there was a lockdown. I think it’s because most people are still going out to work. Children are out playing as well

No problem with responsible parents taking children out well away from others... but as usual stupid twats ruin things for everyone else. I DO NOT WANT A CHILD STANDING RIGHT BEHIND ME A FOOT AWAY. And her comment he is not aware was ridiculous because SHE IS AWARE and can surely direct her child where to cycle or have the bike on a rope or something.

@VeniceQueen2004 I’m a dog owner. I’m walking my dogs at 6.30am, still doing the same routes I’ve been walking for the last forty years. I’ve never thought for one minute that I ‘own the park’ and if people are having a kick about with their children that’s great. Although I never see any at that time of day!

I don’t mind the runners at all as long as they don’t expect me to drag my dogs off the tracks so that they can race past us. Interestingly, the last two mornings have been bright and clear and there have been loads of lycra clad runners on the tracks through the woods. This morning it has been cold and foggy. How many have passed us? Not one!

On alternate days, I walk up to the park with my husband at lunchtime. So the dogs get an early run one day and a later run the next - it breaks the monotony a bit because we can’t get out on the moors which we would normally have been doing. So where I am taking issue and seriously pissed off is with the f...ing sunbathers and picnickers lolloping all over the grass AND leaving all their rubbish behind. I’m sick to death of having to take half empty crisp packets or chocolate wrappers off my dogs. Worse still are the discarded snotty tissues people are chucking everywhere. It’s bad enough when the world was normal but now, seriously?

@alloutoffucks are you joking? Some gardens are too small to cough in? 😂😂 I've never heard anything so funny in all my life. You're outside? A fence separates gardens I would hope....the cough is not going to jump over and sit on your neighbours shoulder is it.

I wouldn't mind if people were coming in the shop and buying 40 cans of Fosters and eighty cigarettes to last them the week.

It's the fact that they are coming in at three for ten cans. Then again at seven for another ten cans and a pack of fags. Then again at half nine for another few cans and another pack of fags.

Yes, I know they are bored but forward plan for your drunken binges people!

My friends dd has a respiratory condition which doctors recommend daily exercise for . She could be quite ill without it. Love to see one of the coronawarriors try and tell her and her mum off for doing starjumps in the garden.

@Chillicheese123 literally no ones saying that. But sure. You fight the power, you rebel you

@Snufflesdog you should see my local Facebook group, full of people saying ‘just spotted my neighbour going out on his bike, should I report him?’ Or ‘next doors kids are in the yard and it’s less than 2m from my back door, will I catch corona virus ?’ (Despite being separated by a 7ft Brick wall)
These people are out there, despite what you think.