Aibu to think private school provision at home can be done in state schools too?

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Just that. Private schools are doing active live teaching via zoom, FaceTime and Skype. Full school days. Teaching via video link, then sending kids off to do work which they send back and gets marked, then another lesson. full school days of work. Even pe online! Parents don’t need to do anything and can get on with work.

State sector get home learning packs. No info about how to do bus stop division or similar technical stuff. Not heard from anyone at school since Friday, no information at all bar work timetable on website. Where are the teachers? Why are can state sector teachers not actively teach online and stay in touch with the kids? Why not more engagement? We are all having to work at home alongside our kids, why aren’t teachers doing this too?

Barbie222 - really interesting thank you. Teachers being held back on innovative solutions by SLT seems nuts though.

Lougle - sounds amazing and shows what’s possible if you throw off the cloak of constraint.

Well, the middle is exactly what I am doing and is hardly rocket science. Nor is it live streaming which was apparently what you wanted,

Seems I am worthy of a

I feel like such a twat now. I said to DH earlier that maybe, just maybe, parents up and down the country will start to appreciate teachers now that they have the responsibility for educating their own children through this crisis.
Wrong.
Unfortunately the vast majority of parents are just bleating about too much work, or too little work, or the lack of online streaming. An unfortunate number are not even attempting to home educate - a fact they are flaunting on social media.
Shame on you, OP. Best get this thread deleted, and fast.

Of course state schools should be streaming live education for pupils. If private schools are doing it, there’s no excuse that the state provision cannot do the same.

Except not all private schools are doing it,just some. Not even the majority.

If private schools didn't find it viable with all their resources, funds, parental involvement, better financial situation of the students, smaller class sizes etc. is it that much a surprise or outrageous that state schools might also feel the same?

Our school doesn't do live teaching, what we are doing though is having a very high number of children in, we do welfare checks on person or by phone, we deliver food and essentials. We've done hundreds of packs complete with resources from pencils to glues. Glues are like gold dust. We made birthday cards and bought little treats for the children with birthdays in this period. We delivered (some on foot) packs and things left behind. We are planning and prepping for summer term, so if we do open we hit the ground running. We are supporting colleagues that are self isolating. We are in school or if at home doing training so when we come back we're "better". We send emails to classes every morning. We keep adding work either online or making more packs. We provide links for activities, learning or support .We are doing many many more things.

We have a high number of children with SEND, living in poverty, chaotic home lives , young carers and so on. We planned for the majority, making sure EVERYONE will be able to access work if the chose to do so.

My kids at state school and the school is working its backside off sending video recorded messages to kids and full day of work. Friends whose kids are at private school and its shite, they say. And have to do their own schedule. So it depends on the school i think

As well as fsm, my school is doing 'period packs' (we're a girl's school), so the presumption that every child has their own tech and a suitable place to work is laughable.

The biggest issue is safeguarding and parental consent. In the private sector you have motivated tech-savvy parents who will respond to an email almost instantly to agree to Skype or Zoom provision.

Not so in the state sector. Emails sent out will get a patchy response and then what do you do? Provide for those that respond appropriately, therefore disadvantaging the children of parents who won't/can't/can't be bothered to respond?

Then there are the safeguarding issues that are wide-ranging and varied.

You also have the issue of not enough vs. too much. State sector teachers are currently working double-duty in case you haven't noticed. I have colleagues working full-time caring for the children of key workers with less than 24 hours notice whilst simultaneously running Google Classrooms. You really have no idea how much work is involved. They have also had to convert and adapt all planned work to suit the online classroom, which is very different from a real-life situation with a teacher offering immediate support and guidance.

Finally, independent schools will be mindful of appearing to provide value for money as most parents are paying eye-watering fees. They're protecting their business with hardly any of the demands and constraints of the state sector.

My school isn’t in a deprived area, it could snd should be doing more. The lowest common denominator us a good point from someone else : do a live stream/video lesson for those that can and written instructions for those that can’t. Doing nothing is a race to the bottom. Our system needs a shake up.

But you said what lougle got sounds amazing and that's not a live stream?

And now is not the time for racing anywhere.

My kids primary school is doing a great job via google classrooms. They set tasks throughout the day and feedback to students when work is submitted. We are in a low income area so children without tech have borrowed it from school. I have been so impressed and grateful to the school staff.

We are getting nothing : no emails, no communication, no marking, no feedback, zilch. I’d love all that and see no reason for not being able to live stream or video lessons. But I can acknowledge that those schools doing some of this are doing better than ours snd it shows what’s possible despite silly union edicts essentially suggesting teachers down tools.

That is not what the unions are saying at all.

Piggy - I disagree. A crisis is exactly the point where people need to step up.

Contact your school not MN, I'd suggest. It must be clear to you by now that this is not a state school wide problem.

I’ll discuss on mumsnet if I wish piggy. 16 pages and wildly differing views shows it’s a popular topic.

OP teachers from all sectors have stepped up by increasing their viral load child-minding children of keyworkers and working under extremely new and stressful circumstances. It is completely unprecedented. We also have the stress of lack of any information AT ALL from the DfE about ANYTHING. Perhaps tell them to step up.

3/4 of people think YABU.

So you realise that zero info is frustrating and yet you inflict the same on parents? It’s that race to the bottom again.

Piggy - thanks, I read that myself. Was there a point?

25 per cent agree. I’m far from alone here.

No, I want you to realise this is a problem specific to a few schools, unrelated to what sector it is.

I told you PAGES ago that my DH is at a private school and is doing nothing.Or certainly not what you think all private schools are doing.

some teschers quoted on here are sunbathing in thr garden

Are they? Where?

We are getting nothing : no emails, no communication, no marking, no feedback, zilch.

Then take it up with your school. Not the teacher the Head. The lack of provision must have a reason (whether that reason is reasonable or not I don't know). The reason will not be "teachers are on holiday having a jolly".

Your post was a lot more general as well ,lazy lay about teachers rather than a specific issue with one specific school.

My DH! I said that!