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Aibu to think private school provision at home can be done in state schools too?

609 replies

Namechangedforthisreply7 · 24/03/2020 23:14

Just that. Private schools are doing active live teaching via zoom, FaceTime and Skype. Full school days. Teaching via video link, then sending kids off to do work which they send back and gets marked, then another lesson. full school days of work. Even pe online! Parents don’t need to do anything and can get on with work.

State sector get home learning packs. No info about how to do bus stop division or similar technical stuff. Not heard from anyone at school since Friday, no information at all bar work timetable on website. Where are the teachers? Why are can state sector teachers not actively teach online and stay in touch with the kids? Why not more engagement? We are all having to work at home alongside our kids, why aren’t teachers doing this too?

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Xenia · 25/03/2020 16:46

I was speaking to someone today who mentioned the same thing - private school in SE doing full lessons as normal until the Easter holiday which is what you could expect if you are paying for it and the same goes for my sons' university work and their lecturers too.

lamppostdog · 25/03/2020 16:46

So we're not allowed in our gardens now ? I sat in mine today marking year 11 tests, I've got 4 classes so it's over 100 papers and one of the things I'll be using to base their final grade on.

PrincessConsueIaBananaHammock · 25/03/2020 16:47

A local school shut completely (so not even key workers kids) following guidance from PHE after a family member of a pupil died of corona. All that staff have a nice jolly holiday at home eh?

MsJuniper · 25/03/2020 16:55

I'm at a state primary and we're providing full time online learning for the children. There is always a teacher online to answer questions through Google Meet, and daily assignments set in Maths, English and Topic.

We started planning two weeks ago and sent home packs of basics, plus children can borrow out a laptop if they need one.

So far it's been massively stressful but the parents and children seem happy!

My son's at a different school and they have only just sent out some tasks, but they have kept in touch daily and have been focusing on wellbeing which I really appreciate. There's no perfect answer but everyone's doing what they can.

mochajoes · 25/03/2020 17:00

well private schools aren't going to want parents to stop paying fees for one.

noblegiraffe · 25/03/2020 17:12

when the rest of us are juggling our jobs with our kids

The amount of people I’ve seen jogging/walking/having a lovely bike ride including families on the path near my house suggests that the idea that simply everyone is at home madly working away while simultaneously homeschooling is bollocks.

noblegiraffe · 25/03/2020 17:14

most private schools closed for Easter last Friday. Ours are doing nothing now as its the holidays.

Then they wouldn’t have answered the question as it was about classes you would have taught. And the graph clearly shows that the vast majority of private schools are setting work via an online platform, with only a minority running online lessons.

Tonyaster · 25/03/2020 17:38

Ah well, can only speak for mine.

Generallybewildered · 25/03/2020 18:33

I’m allowed to take my kids for a cycle ride whilst homeschooling.
It’s called lunchbreak.

chocoholico · 25/03/2020 18:40

The amount of people I’ve seen jogging/walking/having a lovely bike ride including families on the path near my house suggests that the idea that simply everyone is at home madly working away while simultaneously homeschooling is bollocks.

not everyone is. but plenty. you see the ones who aren't working atm - and there are many.

noblegiraffe · 25/03/2020 19:12

It’s called lunchbreak.

Uhuh. And yet when teachers have one it’s called skiving.

1981m · 25/03/2020 19:35

That's not happening at my dcs school

Katjolo · 25/03/2020 19:40

What a horrible thread OP.

Barbie222 · 25/03/2020 19:40

I'm a state school teacher and I'm afraid I agree. Told not to set up anything on my own or send out anything in addition to the pack SLT prepared to ensure "consistency between year groups". I'm keen to know what platform we can use going forward, but there's not been enough "headspace" to sort this yet, apparently. I'm really keen to get going and want to move forward a bit faster but can only share things on my own FB which, of course, parents can't see. It looks like it really varies from school to school.

mambanumber5 · 25/03/2020 20:04

My children's private school has cancelled the Easter holidays and will continue to provide daily lessons throughout the holiday as well as key worker care.

AmazingGrace16 · 25/03/2020 20:14

Because we are in a blind panic about the year 11s who suddenly need loads of evidence for their GCSE grade (more students than in a private school)

Because we have more EHCPs than in private schools so more children on site to teach

Because it's much more likely (because there are more of them) that teachers will have their own kids to look after too

Because you get what you pay for 🤷‍♀️

Adequately fund schools, adequately pay teachers and ensure the correct support systems are in place and then you might free up teacher time so they can actually focus on the teaching.

LettyBriggs · 25/03/2020 20:36

The assumption by plenty on this website is that children in the state system are destitute, can only wear uniform at weekends, as they have no alternative clothes, sleeping on bare mattresses in the floor.
The vast majority of children don’t live in this manner. If we have no aspirations for state school kids because a small minority don’t have computers, then no wonder some parents’ run a mile of the state system. As usual state educated children suffer because of the lowest common denominator attitude towards them. Of course state schools should be streaming live education for pupils. If private schools are doing it, there’s no excuse that the state provision cannot do the same.

Italiandreams · 25/03/2020 20:48

I give up! You have been given lots of reasons why live streaming is not working

  1. Teachers already in school with key workers children
2 . Teachers ill themselves
  1. Teachers With children at home ( still providing work but working flexibly evenings etc)
  2. Lack of training/technology/ equipment ( both schools and children - many households have access to internet but not enough devices for all at the same time)
  3. Safeguarding ( which is for adults as well as children and other children in teachers house etc)

That’s not to say work shouldn’t be provided but for a lot of people in the current climate with everyone managing as best they can, it’s not possible to do this live.

SallyLovesCheese · 25/03/2020 20:56

And I think it’s incendiary for a teacher to be posting garden shots on social during school hours when the rest of us are juggling our jobs with our kids and the idea of a cuppa in the garden is frankly ludicrous. How unprofessional. Says it all really.

This HASto be a wind-up!! Unprofessional to take photos during a lunch break because other people have their children at home? Don't make me laugh.

Most teachers don't usually get a proper lunch break because we're marking books, tidying the classroom, getting resources/equipment ready for the afternoon lessons, eating our lunch with Sam from Year 1 because his mum's worried he doesn't often eat much at lunchtime because he gets nervous in the lunch hall etc. etc.

Does this mean I think all those people who work in other jobs are unprofessional for posting a photo on social media during THEIR lunch hour?

No.

Because I can understand the idea that just because I may not be getting a normal lunchtime, doesn't mean other people can't. I'm not judging people, doing jobs I've never done, or throwing insults at them.

Now the tables have turned and teachers are the ones who might (exceptions for those with own children at home and those still in school) be able to grab some kind of work/life balance and actually have a lunch break.

You sound jealous, OP.

SallyLovesCheese · 25/03/2020 20:59

Oh, and we don't get paid for our lunch hour. Usually we work through for free and just shrug. But we don't get paid, so technically we can do what we like. Just like ANYONE else who works and doesn't get paid for lunch.

Piggywaspushed · 25/03/2020 21:00

FFS private schools are NOT all live streaming lessons. Some are; some state schools also are. Most schools are not. Because this is not the only way of teaching. Nor is it proven to be more effective. Everyone know all children will suffer loss of learning.
Many actual TEACHERS do not have the facility to do this.

GuyFawkesDay · 25/03/2020 21:03

I posted a pic of wine at 4pm

I'm going to work on Fridays.

I don't get paid to work on Fridays. I'm part time.

But I'm doing it to help school. So shove this idea we are lazy where the sun doesn't shine.

And yes, we need to be aware of the face many kids don't have access to office 365 on a new laptop etc. Because if we don't, then ploughing onwards just widens the gap.

We don't have enough laptops in school for all the staff, never mind all the kids that might need one!

FrippEnos · 25/03/2020 21:53

And I think it’s incendiary for a teacher to be posting garden shots

Given what you started the thread about pot, kettle springs to mind.

SpruceTree · 25/03/2020 22:01

Our main concern last week was to give each child some pens, pencils, papers books. I am laughing at the idea that online learning would work in state schools. We are worried the students will getting enough food.

Lougle · 25/03/2020 22:06

I've been seriously impressed with my children's schools.

DD1 - Y9, special school - personal phone call home to update on the school situation. School shut as unsafe to open. Not much work, just Sumdog, which is appropriate.

DD2, Y8 Mainstream - work on Google Classroom updated for each lesson as timetabled. Teachers returning private comments for work submitted - lovely encouraging messages. Teachers available by email within each lesson. I emailed to say that a link went to a resource site instead of the work stated. I got an email today asking if it had been resolved as the teacher had changed the link.

DD3, Y6 - daily emails updating. Work set on the home learning section of the school website. Email contact through a dedicated, secure, email platform for her protection.

I couldn't ask for more.

DD2