To think that Mumsnet should clamp down on the scaremongering threads?

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Thats it really, you come on Mumsnet and anxiety levels are ramped up. Surely thats not safe?

Lol at the clue.

So she started a thread and was supported. Good.

I think part of the issue is that there is not a clear message from the government. A lot of the measures have been voluntary and open to interpretation. If we had stronger leadership and stricter rules which are enforced like in most other countries people would not feel the need to scaremonger or panic buy.

At the end of the day the majority of people are terrified but have different ways of dealing with this. Some choose to bury their heads in the sand and avoid all mention of the virus others choose to google frantically and paste misleading facts in the hope others will be scared and change their behaviour.

Rather than arguing between ourselves we should be speaking out against the governments wholly inadequate response.

The ‘I feel like my lungs are on fire’ thread really annoys me. So many people on there describing just cold symptoms. I do reckon half the people on there are being hypercondriacts too. (Sp)

'So she started a thread and was supported. Good.'

Yes, it's good that posters reassured her. But the reason she came to that dreadful conclusion in the first place was people posting all over social media, including and perhaps primarily here, about how within 5 days at the latest any and all people with pre-existing conditions are going to be booted off the ventilators or turned away at the hospital doors.

Yanbu. It seems to have become a badge of honour to be hysterical.
And PPs are right that the 'them and us' attitudes displayed, the very loose grasp of 'facts' being stated with absolute certainty and the rudeness of some posts evidence fractures in society that are not encouraging long-term and are certainly not at all helpful at the moment.

I’ve not seen that on here. I’ve seen information from Italy re age limit. Maybe it was elsewhere. In which case it’s really good she posted. If it is here and you’ve seen it I’d correct them.

I’ve seen loads of the silly posts mentioned below and corrected.

That was a précis of the general tendency, not to be taken literally, but that is very much the tone. Or you get 'in Italy they are blanket not treating anyone with an existing condition' + (on another thread) 'a week to go to Italy-style conditions here' and people draw their horrific conclusions.

It's made me realise how many users on here suffer from MH issues to be honest, and it's a large proportion so you get a very unbalanced view. The panic and scaremongering is growing into a frothing at the mouth monster.

I came off last week, have poked my head in this weekend and it's even worse.

I personally think there needs to be a pinned post now when people start a new post reminding users that CV threads need to be in the CV section. Even blocking it doesn't help, it's almost every single thread in active.

I’m not an anxious person but the massive amount of CV related threads is freaking me out. Can anyone give me an idiots guide to hiding subjects please ? I’ve tried to do hide the CV topic and thought I’d done it but I’ve obviously done something wrong. Thanks.

Think people are also mixing up "the situation in Italy is very bad" with "therefore every bad thing I hear about the situation in Italy must be true" which is not so helpful.

I agree with Dippy read the actual Imperial report. See it as a worst case scenario as it assumes no effective treatment available.

Also alongside read about some of the treatments that are being trialled by scientists (but the government are being deliberately coy about at the moment). One for example is meant to shorten the illness when people get it 'properly' from 11 days to 4, with the hope it will prevent some getting severe complications (it isn't effective once people have these complications). Hopefully if we slow the spread in the short term (over a couple of months) by then there will be more ventilators and we will have decided which the best treatment option is, no one knows this yet.

Then look at the Imperial graphs again and consider the possible impact.

Interestingly the Imperial report says total lockdown will lead to a bigger surge in the autumn and more deaths not less. But it was written on information they had then, which whether they are scientists or not is all they can base their modelling on.

We need to stay optimistic and long term social distancing/ lock down isn't really an option. That said I'm not convinced international travel will be back on the cards for a while but that is just a personal opinion ....!

Jane I’d avoid it for the next five weeks if I were you. Maybe longer.

Think people are also mixing up "the situation in Italy is very bad" with "therefore every bad thing I hear about the situation in Italy must be true" which is not so helpful.

The other bizarre thing is people are thinking Italy is bad therefore we must do the same as Italy now. It quite simply isn't working particularly well is another way of looking at it. Maybe 2 weeks or whatever will actually help us.

It's made me realise how many users on here suffer from MH issues to be honest, and it's a large proportion so you get a very unbalanced view. The panic and scaremongering is growing into a frothing at the mouth monster.

It's evidence of the dangers of the lockdown that they are all begging for. I dread to think what that will do to a lot of people I really do.

Tea there is a lag of two to three weeks and we won’t know for Italy until then.

What do you think it will be like here in two to three weeks Tea?

Marsha fingers crossed things start looking up there. It's just horrendous.

It quite simply isn't working particularly well is another way of looking at it.

It’s all we’ve got right now.

It worked in China.

What’s your suggestion?

I think the cases will go up in the UK in the next 2-3 weeks Marsha. But that's just unhelpful personal opinion isn't it in the light of this thread? The biggest hope for me lies in scientists working out the best way of treating it. So fewer people get seriously ill and ICU can cope. That is what I'm clinging onto.

It’s all we’ve got right now.

Agree but it will make people less healthy/ ill and cause deaths itself. Hopefully we can slow the spread enough for ICU to cope in the short term.

I don’t think the picture here in 2-3 weeks is going to be changed by some MN random posting “I know someone who’s a nail technician and she’s been drafted into ICU nursing but the government are hushing it up.”

I’m beginning to notice a “tell” in the more, let’s say, whippey threads as they start with “Please, please...”, “Why are some people...”, “Why can’t..”, “It is so selfish...”

These are all usually criticism of the dreaded “other people” that the OP deems isn’t using as much Zoflora or door sealing tape as they are.

Thanks for the advice on hiding threads, I’ve just done that.

The poor dr's have the horrendous responsibility of applying criteria for who gets an ICU bed based on how likely the patient is to survive. You are less likely to survive than others. There are people in their 20s, 30s and 40s with no underlining health conditions fighting for their lives in ICU wards in London. There simply aren't enough beds or ventilators. Really important you stay at home and no one enters or leaves until it's all over. Good luck.

This is from a thread yesterday.

This is very worrying indeed. Where do you get your information, do you have a reliable link for that?

This is me asking the poster to back up their claims. Other posters asked them the same.

No evidence was gives.

Now this is whipping up fear and utterly irresponsible.

STICK YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND all you like, but you can’t stop other people discussing the truth of the matter

Take a look at Italy and wise the fuck
Up!

Don’t like the thread, don’t read it, but stop trying to act like the thought police.

Ask to move them to the coronavirus topic then hide the topic - if you’re not prepared for the truth.

Who decides which posts are fiction and which are fact, though?

There appear to be a lot of very dense people who still believe that the basic facts and advise Government is giving are “scaremongering”. They need to be put right, somehow. (Nail and hair appointments! Good grief)