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To think that Mumsnet should clamp down on the scaremongering threads?

372 replies

callmeadoctor · 21/03/2020 20:02

Thats it really, you come on Mumsnet and anxiety levels are ramped up. Surely thats not safe?

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SinisterBumFacedCat · 22/03/2020 13:45

Yanbu

One thread this week had a poster yelling “HELL IS COMING”

Ffs people are having a hard enough time right now. Someone with anxiety and depression could be easily pushed over the edge by stupid comments like that.

crapette · 22/03/2020 13:59

You can hide the whole board if you want to avoid the news

Many of the threads aren't "news" - not even close.

They are ill-informed scare-mongering posted by people who wouldn't recognise a fact if it jumped up and bit them.

woodchuck99 · 22/03/2020 14:02

The problem is that people's idea of scaremongering is very much open to interpretation. Obviously downright lies should be deleted but I've not seen that much of that. People do need to to know the truth in order to take things seriously and curb the spread. Ironically the posters that talk of "scaremongering" are the ones that make me feel anxious as it suggests they might not be taking this as seriously as they should be. I think it's absolutely fine to go for walks or cycle rides but that's it.

HouseElfy · 22/03/2020 14:10

Ironically the posters that talk of "scaremongering" are the ones that make me feel anxious as it suggests they might not be taking this as seriously as they should be.

I absolutely am. Dh and I are both wfh, I pulled our 4 year old out of nursery before we even had to and I only go out for a brief walk to areas I can keep a safe distance from others. I am not seeing family or friends.

I still believe many posts on here are irresponsible and scaremongering. On mn they are preaching by and large to the converted but they are making the already anxious much worse.

woodchuck99 · 22/03/2020 14:10

This wishy washy half arsed in between method is utter crap. Either do a full lockdown or open everything up. What we are doing now is spreading the virus whilst simultaneously destroying the economy at the same time. We need to pick one to save and stick to it- lockdown properly for say, 3 weeks then relax things.

What you mean by lockdown properly though? I think that this will work much better if people can still go outside for walk and I doubt if that will continue the spread to any great extent as long as they are not close to anyone else. We can't totally stop this so we are just trying to slow it down so that the NHS can cope and hopefully so that effective antivirals can be found to help those with symptoms.

MimiLaRue · 22/03/2020 14:12

What you mean by lockdown properly though

I mean the way its being done in Italy and Spain and France.
You can go for a walk there but not in crowds. The sea front where I live is literally heaving with tourists and huge crowds. There are thousands of people. Despite the government saying no more than 10 at social gatherings. People arent listening.

woodchuck99 · 22/03/2020 14:15

I absolutely am. Dh and I are both wfh, I pulled our 4 year old out of nursery before we even had to and I only go out for a brief walk to areas I can keep a safe distance from others. I am not seeing family or friends.

You might be but it is clear that not everybody is yet taking this seriously enough and many of those people will be complaining about "scaremongering". Wetherspoon's looked full when I passed it last week for example. When DD finished school last week her friends all thought it a good idea to go to the pub . The majority were arranging to see each other the following week as most parents had claimed that they didn't care about people visiting their house.I'm feeling much relieved that pubs are now shut.

FunkyKingston · 22/03/2020 14:16

They are ill-informed scare-mongering posted by people who wouldn't recognise a fact if it jumped up and bit them.

There's no need to ban anything, people need to have better critical thinking skills and ask themselves whether an anonymous stranger on an internet chat forum with no qualifications or privileged information is likely to know something they don't.

crazydiamond222 · 22/03/2020 14:19

@14:12MimiLaRue. I agree. Close all non essential shops such as hairdressers and gift shops and stop pubs from handing out takeaway drinks to patrons outside. The current situation is just making people congregate in different places. We need to prevent all options for socialisation for a short period in order to be effective.

woodchuck99 · 22/03/2020 14:19

You can go for a walk there but not in crowds.

I'm not sure about Italy or France but I don't think they are allowed out for a walk in Spain.

TheCanterburyWhales · 22/03/2020 14:28

Nor in Italy. Not after new decree last night. People were blithely meeting their friend for a bike ride or taking their dog for a walk along the beach.
Lots of bikes, lots of dogs. Lots of people- understandably, but unacceptably.

crapette · 22/03/2020 14:37

I'm not sure about Italy or France

In France you can go out for exercise but you must be alone and stay close to home.

Cycling is not allowed.

You can walk your dog but again you need to stay close to home. You have to put a time on your form so that they can tell how long you have been out.

You need a form and some ID every time you leave the house.

Only trips to the supermarket, pharmacy or workplace are permitted. All shops, bars and restaurants are closed.

No more than one person in a car.

Its an automatic 135 euro fine if you are breaking the rules. They have just announced significantly increased fines and possible prison sentences for repeat offenders.

Eastie77 · 22/03/2020 14:42

I'm looking out of my window and the park my flat overlooks is full with people walking around, playing football, cycling, laying on the grass and joggers. Children are in the playground, some dressed in T-shirt's despite the cold and no doubt coughing over each over and the parents standing around. Baffling.

crapette · 22/03/2020 14:43

This is the latest French update re fines for being outside with no valid reason:

The govt have clarified the fines for second and third offenders of the confinement regulations.

1st offence is stil 135€, if payed within 45 days (375€ if paid late).

If a person is found to contravene again with 15 days the second fine is now set at 1500€.

If within 30 days the offence is commited a third time, it becomes a criminal offence with a 3750€ fine and 6 months in prison.

dreamingbohemian · 22/03/2020 14:56

There are a few levels between what's currently in the UK and total lockdown like in France. You can close non-essential shops and markets, stop the pub takeaways, close the parks and promenades. That would help a lot.

The problem is that no matter how bad things get, people will go out. Even in northern Italy they are finding thousands of people breaking the rules. So you have to be realistic.

Tanith · 22/03/2020 14:59

The trolls are out in force, too. They seem to have zoomed in on the Coronavirus from all over the site, like sharks attracted to blood.

crapette · 22/03/2020 16:17

Well the lockdown only started here last Tuesday. This was when it became apparent that just giving out social distancing advice and closing bars and restaurants was not having much effect (sound familiar?).

It has only been 5 days and already they have had to introduce new legislation to deal with repeat offenders.

They have also had to tweak the rules around going out for excercise as people continue to take the piss.

AgentJohnson · 22/03/2020 16:28

To be honest the threads you speak of aren’t on my radar, I suspect because I’m not drawn to them. Anxiety loves company.

If you are predisposed to anxiety then maybe chat forums aren’t the safest places to frequent.

My hours have been cut in half and I have a teen at home but their are many plus sides for me; reading more, time for DIY, saving money by batch cooking, binge watching, learning to draw )tons of online free courses).

cactus2020 · 22/03/2020 17:00

I certainly blame some threads for escalating panic-buying (everyone then denies they did it or have wasted any food...) and making people feel miserable and highly anxious. Best thing to do is to limit your exposure to both news and those threads. Check in once a day for changes on the advice and focus on looking after yourself, family, neighbours etc. Follow the rules, try to support local business in new ways and try to stay calm. The frenzy honestly helps no'one.

MasakaBuzz · 22/03/2020 17:56

From my observations people are completely black and white. They are not recognising that individuals have to make judgements.

I am on a waiting list for a knee replacement. The waiting list was a year. I can’t see it happening within 2 years, unless one of them goes completely, which is likely. The rest of my joints are stuffed. The two things I can do to keep things getting critical are exercise and lose weight. I have a tiny garden. I am very grateful for it. However I will create more pressure on the health service by not exercising. I also have low level mental health difficulties and live alone. I don’t think some people are taking the impact of being completely alone into consideration.

Today I took the dog to the park. The park was quiet. I met some acquaintances. It was not a pre arranged meeting. We kept 10-15 feet apart.

Later on another friend walked up for her exercise. We walked the dog round the park maintaining 6-10 feet apart.

Finally I took the dog for her normal evening walk. I met one other person. The same person I have walked round the park with for years. We kept a distance. Probably 1 metre. I am trying to encourage a proper distance.

I have interacted with 5 people today. I haven’t gone to any busy public spaces.

The question is what is the balance? On here people are saying I should be hung drawn and quartered for what I have done today.

It’s easy for those who live with other people........

LynnSchmob · 22/03/2020 18:09

How do you hide a whole topic? I can’t take anymore of it - they are collectively insane

Yes, we know it is serious. DH business is going down the shitter, I’m on unpaid leave for 3 months and we’re self isolating for 2 weeks. I’m not sure what constantly panicking is going to achieve.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 22/03/2020 18:14

I've hidden the entire virus board. I wish threads from there didn't appear in the 'trending now' box though, because I've opened virus thread accidentally from there.

I'm also fed up with the nastiness. Ask a question and you're jumped on telling you you're stupid. It's awful.

LynnSchmob · 22/03/2020 18:22

Today I’ve seen predictions for 500000 dead; no cure ever; no vaccine ever; self isolation for 2 years; rioting on the streets; looting; and finally a demand for a coup to get rid of Boris Johnson. They’re just egging each other on with absolute shit they’ve read from Facebook.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 22/03/2020 18:25

I'm desperate for some good news and something positive.

Off to start a "feed the birds" thread in chat.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 22/03/2020 18:31

Today I’ve seen predictions for 500000 dead; no cure ever; no vaccine ever; self isolation for 2 years; rioting on the streets; looting; and finally a demand for a coup to get rid of Boris Johnson. They’re just egging each other on with absolute shit they’ve read from Facebook.

You forgot killing all pets so the vets can treat humans. It's crazy there.

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